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ringo
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Message 3091 of 3207 (896736)
08-17-2022 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 3083 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:51 PM


Re: Omnichron?
Phat writes:
we have a say in what *we* do but no say (apart from uninformed opinions) about what God should do.
As I said... we DO have a say in whom our friends are. No friend of mine *should* roast people in Hell.
Phat writes:
the Book explains how we *should* relate to God and Jesus...
The Book also explains what we *must* do to be saved - but you don't mind throwing that part away.
Phat writes:
After all, what standard is higher?
The reality standard is highest. We are real. God is questionable at best.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 3092 of 3207 (896737)
08-17-2022 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 3084 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:53 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat]As if humanity has not caused all wars and economic crashes!
Everything good that has happened to humanity was also caused by humanity. Humanity has cured diseases that God created.
Stop hating humanity so much.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Theodoric
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Message 3093 of 3207 (896738)
08-17-2022 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 3087 by Phat
08-17-2022 2:09 PM


Re: Soul Man
It only takes a sentence to take down a troll.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 3094 of 3207 (896750)
08-18-2022 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3087 by Phat
08-17-2022 2:09 PM


Re: Soul Man
Phat writes:
If I turned into a troll, *you* turned into a one-sentence critic who imagines that he knows more than the rest of us. Sad, but expected.
This thread was begun in 2012. You should read some of your older posts to see how different they are from what you're posting these days. Click on the Phat Posts Only link and poke around.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 3095 of 3207 (896752)
08-18-2022 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 3094 by Percy
08-18-2022 5:24 PM


Re: Soul Man
That would take self-reflection. I don't think he is actually capable of that.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 3096 of 3207 (896753)
08-19-2022 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 3095 by Theodoric
08-18-2022 11:03 PM


The Man In The Mirror
I am as capable of it as anyone here. I took your advice Percy. Thank you. Thank you both.
Its not easy to change for the better. Apparently, it is far easier to get worse.
And how does one simply change the emotional reactions that they find bottled up within them?

Edited by Phat, .


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Percy
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Message 3097 of 3207 (896756)
08-19-2022 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 3096 by Phat
08-19-2022 7:03 AM


Re: The Man In The Mirror
Phat writes:
And how does one simply change the emotional reactions that they find bottled up within them?
If they are due to your diabetic blood sugar issues then there is likely nothing you can do, at least nothing that a layperson could suggest. If you visit any of the many diabetic websites they all say that blood sugar issues can cause mood swings resulting in brain fog, irritability, impulsivity, aggression, and irrationality, among a host of other mental symptoms. Talk to your doctor.
--Percy

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Dredge
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Message 3098 of 3207 (896799)
08-22-2022 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3064 by Phat
08-16-2022 7:48 PM


Re: Troll Alert
Phat writes:
Perhaps their teacher would remind them that they proved nothing. They merely demonstrated it. Keep in mind what the peanut gallery has taught us about "proofs".
What is the difference between
(a) demonstrating that I'm taller than an ant, and
(b) proving that I'm taller than an ant?

Edited by Dredge, .

Edited by Dredge, .


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Dredge
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Message 3099 of 3207 (896801)
08-22-2022 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3074 by ringo
08-17-2022 11:38 AM


Dredge writes:
So science can't even prove that I'm taller than an ant. Wow ... science is so dumb!
ringo writes:
A brain surgeon can't fly an F-15. Doesn't mean he's dumb.
Why can't science prove that I'm taller than an ant?

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 3100 of 3207 (896802)
08-22-2022 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 3079 by Theodoric
08-17-2022 12:18 PM


Re: Soul Man
Let me guess ... you eventually label every theist on this site a "troll"?
What are the evolutionary ancestors of a troll?

Edited by Dredge, .


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Dredge
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Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 3101 of 3207 (896803)
08-22-2022 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3077 by ringo
08-17-2022 11:50 AM


Re: Troll Alert
Do you know how a tape-measure works?

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 3102 of 3207 (896804)
08-22-2022 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3082 by ringo
08-17-2022 12:23 PM


Re: Omnichron?
ringo writes:
I pick my own friends.
Do you in fact have any friends?
If so, what are their names?
I have a friend ... his name is Walter.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 3103 of 3207 (896805)
08-22-2022 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3084 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:53 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat writes:
Next thing you know, they will change the wording on the money to "In Gods We Trust".
Or "In Science We Trust" ... even though science can't prove anything (apparently).

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Theodoric
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Message 3104 of 3207 (896807)
08-23-2022 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 3100 by Dredge
08-22-2022 10:18 PM


If you act like a troll you probably are a troll.
No just the trolls. If you stop acting like a troll, I will stop calling you a troll. But we both know that will never happen.
Your final question just solidifies even more that all you are doing is trolling.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3105 of 3207 (896810)
08-23-2022 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 3102 by Dredge
08-22-2022 10:57 PM


Re: Omnichron?
Dredge writes:
Do you in fact have any friends?
Yes.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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