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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Afraid to call out what behavior, specifically? And in what terms? Labeling every supporter of BLM based on someone rioting or shooting policeman? What exactly are people afraid to say. And you believe liberals aspire to this. Sorry. Not buying that. You are certainly entitled to an opinion, but you haven't been very convincing. It seems like you're being intentionally obtuse. I've been explicit in several different ways, but there's really no need to belabor it any further"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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The thing about sexual freedom, which you like so much, is that it has brought a lot of social problems with it, such as a high rate of divorce with its devastating effect on children, single mothers and incredibly high rates of abortion, and it's very probably liberated some criminal tendencies in some men and increased the child molestation/murder rate, rape rate etc., enormously. And it could be argued that repressing sexual freedoms has 10 times the negative effect. The irony is that 9 out of 10 times, the countries suppressing sexuality are Islamic... which you hate... and yet they're so similar to your belief system. Not to mention the majority of them are failed states. Secretly you must be delighted at the fact that ISIS throws homosexuals off buildings and stones harlots. Is that about accurate?
The big problem here is that violations of God's Law bring down God's judgment on a nation, such things as economic destruction, social chaos, crime, foreigners moving in and taking over, failed military actions. Which explains perfectly why Europe and North America are vastly more prosperous than the countries that don't violate God's law. That's some judgment! Send the Taliban my regards!
These consequences are spelled out in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. We're just at the beginning of all that but I think the trends are clear. Too bad, the idea of freedom the fallen nature likes so much is really a recipe for social disaster. Your mouth seems to water at the thought of the sinners perishing in exquisite agony. Be careful what you wish for, as Jesus was mostly concerned with the Pharisees. Perhaps you're not quite as close to the good Lord as you might think. Separating the Wheat from the Tares!; the Goats from the Lambs!"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Wow was that an excoriating personal attack. I learned from the best!
God's judgment develops over time, which you might know if you spent much time in the Bible. The trends to disaster are already underway, however. Our prosperity is the reward of our previous Christian character, the loss of it is only about half a century old, give it time. Ahhhh, his judgment cometh and that right soon! Well, Paul definitely thought he would see the Rapture in his life time. Meanwhile, 2,000 years later.... "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
I'm quite sure there has never been a time in the history of the Church when so many different branches are sounding so certain that the last days are upon us. It's always been like that... every generation claims that it's going to hell in a handbasket, etc, etc. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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So you think you can get away with contradicting me with an old tired clich. Try paying attention. I just said it has NOT been like that. Previous rumblings are NOT what we are seeing now, that was my point and I'm sure you are too out of touch to see it. I'm arguing that it has been like that. Always -- since the Church began"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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I'm mostly developing liberal viewpoints on a lot of social issues, but I still find that I frequently empathize with conservatives rather than liberals during debates or discussions. Conservative talking points still resonate in my mind, even if my liberal-influenced intellect finds them unsatisfying. I can completely empathize. You could have substituted your name with mine, and almost everything about the story would have been relevant to mine. It's a lonely place for a moderate or a libertarian. You're too liberal to be a conservative, and too conservative to be a liberal. When I first arrived here, I was the prototypical Christian conservative... which seems so foreign now. And yet for however much I have changed, there are still elements that are more typical to conservative perspectives. On any given topic, my liberal or conservative hat might change. As a result, some have said that I was phony then while others that I'm a phony now. Well, my views are intricate and reasoned by both experiences and clever argumentation from once opposed viewpoints. I realize that neither of us has to fulfill the role of carbon copy. We don't need to toe any party line. We just need to remain open-minded and be willing to speak up but also to know when it's time to shut up and listen. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
My take on it is that, as Coyote explained, the PC that exists among Progressives is obvious to the point of denials concerning it are pass. Many do in fact use it as a weapon to shut down a legitimate argument and use it a way similar to a filibuster. Conservatives have plenty of bad tendencies, but this bad tendency is particular to Progs.
However, I also understand what many people have been trying to point out to Faith; that her use of the term PC is essentially mischaracterized to mean anything "liberal." "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
This place is full of lefties. When are one of you PC labelers going to point to someone here attempting to shut down discussion in such a way? I spent an entire thread requesting such an example from you, without success. One example would be Genomicus and Modulous in the White Privilege thread. I'm too lazy to look up specific post numbers Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Actually, I've never once attempted to shut you down. You're too lazy to look up specific post numbers or did it never happen? Anyone visiting that thread will at once see that I've been consistent in presenting evidence in detailed fashion and using that evidence to excoriate your position -- instead of attempting to shut down your argument for any supposed PC reasons. So, yes, go ahead and pull up specific post numbers or your statement is not exactly defensible. What I mean by "shut down" is by excluding anything outside of your racist narrative. You won't even entertain it, because like Theodoric in the Sounding Gay thread, even the presumption of something must be racist or homophobic or sexist. In essence, it's like pulling the Race Card. Whenever somebody doesn't like what you're saying, just make allegations of racism instead of addressing the content. That's what I mean by "shut down." I'm not suggesting that you were trying to silence me or anything along those lines. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
I agree that Theodoric reacted in a rather unhinged manner in the thread you referenced. However, I disagree with your assessment (to the limited extent that I can be unbiased regarding a discussion I am actively engaged in) about excluding anything outside of a race-based narrative. It's two in the morning where I am, so my memory may be faulty, but I do not believe I ever called your viewpoint racist. It is, rather, somewhat misinformed (because, again, those in positions of privilege are often blind to their privilege). Specific examples would be helpful here, where you feel like I'm coming across as an enforcer of some PC standard. I may be confusing something Modulous said and unfairly pasted it on to you. If so, I apologize. Modulous at one point in the discussion claimed that I was getting dangerously close to overt racism (not a verbatim quote). I thought that was a rather unfair characterization of my argument. However, even this was a bad example of what people are referencing, because I actually don't think Modulous was being unfair or using some kind of straw man tactic against me. The argument between Bill Maher and Ben Affleck comes to mind. Affleck apparently thought it was racist to be critical of Islam. Apparently if you are critical of Islam, it means you hate Arabs. Affleck insisted over and over that it was "racist" even though Islam is a religion, not a race. But as soon as you make the allegation alone, it shifts the focus of the argument away from the topic and ends up with someone defending themselves against a false allegation. It's a straw man tactic. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
YOu don't need PC to counter the type of thinking you expressed in your last line. PC is not just an opinion, it's a Marxist propaganda tool and it's a tyrannical totalitarian propaganda tool. Are you suggesting that people who use Political Correctness are getting this out of some manifesto or communist playbook? Political correctness is generally nonsense, I would agree, but your words read like some hysterical, delusional, tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy straight out of the mouths of McCarthyists. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Trump might be sincere in his anti-free trade views, but he isn't sincerely anti-immigration. Obama has deported millions (more than every previous president combined) and Trump is just using rhetoric and language that will be meaningless if elected. All that tells me is that, on top of being a monumental piece of shit, he's also a lying piece of shit who panders for votes.... but he wants us to believe that he's not a "politician?"
Trump is just using anti-pc tough guy rhetoric and it worked. He won the SEC primaries (that started on March 5). He won every southern state except Cruz' Texas. I can't believe he pulled it off! Nobody can believe it.
Trump is simply a Pro-Life liberal (with libertarian anti-war views) IMO. Trump comes across as mentally unstable and the kind of guy who would absolutely use the military as his personal mercenaries to settle scores with anyone that crosses him. He's a megalomaniac and an attention whore who will take part in anything that gets his name put up in lights. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
While Removals are up, Returns are down and the combined numbers are down in total. And in recent years, Removals are at major low (from ICE) Illegal immigration in to the United States is also at historic lows. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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