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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Why don't you knock off with the "glowby" crap, Razd, and use just one name? LOL, sorry my paranoid friend it ain't so. While I am enjoying glowby's replies it isn't me. I just dropped in to show you a video on the sea ice (not ice cap):
Please feel free to compare that (temporary) high point at 2014 to ALL the low points before 2005 and get back to me on that expanding sea ice thingy. and a bit on the jet stream:
quote: Would you not agree that changing the jet stream changes weather patterns around the globe? Some areas become hotter (and dryer) while others become colder (and wetter)? Please note that the brown areas are significantly warmer than normal while the blue areas are significantly colder than normal. Which do you think is more pervasive -- hotter than normal or colder than normal? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Perhaps that's not an accurate description of the math. Nonetheless, an increase of 0.55 degrees C corresponds to approximately a 1 degree F increase in temperature. I have no idea if that is what marc9000 actually meant. So how much difference can a degree of warming make? In the N American arctic permafrost is melting ... There are deposits of Methane Clathrate in the arctic (N. America and Siberia) and in deep ocean just off the continental shelf ...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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quote: Ah yes a local anomaly debunks reality ...
quote: That purple spot is where Senator Inhofe chose to make his snowball -- clearly not an average condition on earth ...
quote: There's a transcript of Sheldon's little fact slam if you are interested. (That's my senator) Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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And if you still don't understand the difference between a data point and a data set:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
and I though it was the medical maryjane.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... there are wavelengths of which we receive much more than others. These are the wavelengths to which our eyes respond. Coincidence, no doubt. No doubt at all, nor is that any reason for chlorophyll to appear green ... oops Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Polling scientists on climate change | National Center for Science Education
quote: Pretty strong results. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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To "Make America Great Again" we would need to
... for a start. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... and Regulated Monopoly Utilities where their income is based on their investment in infrastructure and that could be used as safe retirement investments by the average person. Make that not-for-profit utilities and hospitals any other business the serves basic needs for people (food? housing?) and I'm in. Make it so corporations have to share profits with workers as they do for share-holders, with workers and shareholders voting (one vote per person) on wages, electing board of directors and leaders (ie democratic companies instead of autocratic) and I'm in. Become a world leader in science and technology again, by promoting green science (renewable energy, waste reduction, full cycle cost analysis including waste disposal and environmental cleanup) and promoting social reforms like democracy and equality and justice. Become a world leader in education and learning by providing free community college education to those who want it, and full ride scholarships for higher education in return for commitments to return that learning with community service. Let startup companies go tax free for 3 years (average time to become viable) and only tax self-employed people as employees ... So much to do ... Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
go to mars instead of to war curious that Mars happens to be the the God of War....
Indeed, so if we are ever going to put an end to the aggrandizement of weapons makers we need to go to the source. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Go to the site as it is interactive.
quote: Go through each of the graphics to see. Sorry, I was not able to capture the images, as they are active. The ones of greater interest are on: page 5 - all natural factors combined page 10 - all human factors combined. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Your're right. Only a moron would think that. And only a moron would consider that anyone who understands the science and the facts of AGW would think that. Especially when you look at the data presented in the Message 245 link, which covers *all* the purported\supposed "alternative" explanations of the deniers AND all the anthropomorphic causes and compare them to the observed data: (1) sum natural causes ~negligible effect(2) sum human causes ~100% effect So one would have to be a moron to continue to argue natural causes are having a significant effect on the data. Note that they include aerosols which were banned to prevent ozone depletion and their reduction in use leads to negative warming trends -- evidence that we CAN affect the results with appropriate action. My advice to those in fossil fuel industries is to get out and get involved in alternatives. My house is now grid-free from electricity, and by next year I plan to be off gas (converting my heating system to electric hot water powered by my solar panels). Every day that passes just brings more confirmation of global climate change, sadly, it seems, at an increasing rate. So when does the cognitive dissonance bubble burst? What catastrophe will be needed to make people sit up and listen? Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : clrty Edited by RAZD, : spby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I paid $15,000.00 to have a solar panel array installed on my roof.
This will save me $750.00 per year on electricity costs (at current rates, which I expect to rise with time). That is a return on investment of 5% -- better than you can get from most other forms of investment. The government grants & tax breaks mean ~1/3 of the cost of the installation will be recovered, increasing my return to 7.5% per year. My current gas bill is ~$850.00/year for house heating (radiant hot water) and hot water. Converting to an electric water heater (which gets hot enough to use for radiant floor heat -- you don't want to scald your feet) means an additional saving (for an additional cost of ~$800.00 installed), and would bring my return on investment to $1600.00/$15800.00 = 10% and with the grants and tax cuts it will be $1600.00/$10800.00 = ~15% return. Note that this means you can make this investment with a 2nd mortgage or a home equity loan and still be ahead as long as the interest on the loan is less than the "interest" you realize from reduced utility costs. Every year I will in effect be getting $1600.00 from the sun. While I do nothing but sit and enjoy it. And this will increase each year as the utility rates go up. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : tpoby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Just to be clear. I think the understanding that 2015 was the hottest year on record and that ... ... each month was a new hottest record for the month, which I believe is a new phenomenon. Let me spell that out again: 2015 was the hottest year, month by month, than any on record. There is a measured slowing of the ocean conveyor belt. [abe] Domain Names, Web Hosting and Online Marketing Services | Network Solutions
quote: That was published December 16, 2010, but I thought I saw some recent data on this. [/abe] Not a pretty picture at all Edited by RAZD, : abeby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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This article goes through ALL the purported causes of climate change to show which ones cause how much change.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot? I know this is a bare link, but all I can do is take screenshots:
When you add them all together you get a very very very strong match between the model and the observed data, and the only element that significantly adds to the warming is the greenhouse gases. And it would have been worse if we had not banned aerosols. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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