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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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marc9000 writes:
Reality accepters want to outlive the Apocalypse.
What is it that global warming believers want?
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
frako writes:
Are you still driving that 1980 Yugo?
... my car is a bit older....
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
What do short-term fluctuations have to do with long-term trends?
As of May 2015 the Polar ice is 5% larger than the 1979 size was. If the earth is getting so much warmer due to our emissions into the air how is that possible?
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
There is a long-term trend in temperatures, which you don't seem to deny. There's no reason why the ice caps can't get bigger in the short term even if the temperature is rising in the long term.
But you only have data from 1979 until the present to work with. So what long term fluctuations are you talking about?
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
foreveryoung writes:
Maybe you should define what you mean by a "coherent thermodynamic definition".
Nevertheless, there is no coherent thermodynamic definition of the greenhouse effect.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
RAZD writes:
A thought occurred to me the other day: If your solar panels are installed on the roof, what happens when your shingles need to be replaced?
The initial installation cost is irrelevant in the long run, because they are virtually maintenance free so operating costs are virtually nil.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
It's always nice to have a massive government report to confirm the obvious.
This just in:Massive Government Report Says Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause Comments?
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NoNukes writes:
Absent the science, it isn't obvious that the world is round. If the government figures it out, we'd better stop the presses. Absent the science, and the government report is simply a report of the consensus among scientists, I would suggest that the fact that humans are the driver of global client change is not obvious. But the science isn't absent; we've known about it for a long time.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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NoNukes writes:
Well, that's what happened. It happened a while ago already and the pile is still getting bigger. So yes, it is @#$%ing obvious and we didn't need the government to confirm the obvious.
So if obvious means, 'after a zillion scientists analyzed the situation and then published their results in a peer-reviewed process'....
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
NoNukes writes:
I think we'd be better off if we had never figured out that the globe was warming. We could be reducing our use of fossil fuels because they pollute the air we breathe.
I am taking issue with the claim that the relative size of the human contribution is of no importance. That's simply incorrect.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
The God of the Bible was big on meat. Remember how He rejected Cain's veggie offering? Remember the Tabernacle and its accessories? The altar was a barbecue, not a salad bar. And bring back the God of the Bible.An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's always the way it is with you, isn't it? If reality doesn't fit the Bible, reality must be wrong. God told Noah after the Flood to eat meats so something must have changed between then and now to make meat an undesirable food. Message 403An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Diomedes writes:
In Saskatchewan we had one warm evening this past summer. The nights have been downright cold. No thunderstorms to speak of. Our climate seems to be getting less extreme than it used to be. The summers are much hotter and more humid and fall starts later. Not necessarily the worst thing if you live there I guess. I'm not a climate-change denier by any means but I don't believe in blaming every car accident on climate change. Sometimes a car just runs into a bandwagon.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That isn't how He works though, is it? He picks one person, such as Noah or Abraham, and spares one family from the general slaughter. Abraham personally advocated for the Sodomites and Gomorrites but Noah didn't even bother to do that. To be fair, he was busy building the ark, while Abraham only had to check the fire extinguishers.... I'm sure if some great number of us asked God to spare us, He would....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 805 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I think you have it about right. According to the Lowes website, windstorm sheathing comes in 10-foot lengths. What they illustrate isn't actually plywood; it's chipboard, which is what is normally used for sheathing (up here out of hurricane-range, anyway).
As for "additional hardware", you can get aluminum clips with an H cross-section to reinforce joints that don't have blocking behind them.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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