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Theodoric
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Message 9 of 76 (609865)
03-23-2011 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Dr Adequate
03-23-2011 9:44 PM


Re: Homeschooling conventions
You would think buz would at least read the article that was referenced on this before he commented.
Nah, I guess wouldn't think he would.

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Theodoric
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Message 11 of 76 (609868)
03-23-2011 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Buzsaw
03-23-2011 10:06 PM


Re: Homeschooling conventions
Will you read the freaking link in the OP.
quote:
After much prayer and deliberation over the weekend, Great Homeschool Convention's Advisory Board has unanimously decided to disinvite Ken and AIG from all future conventions, including the Cincinnati convention next week. The Board believes this to be the Lord's will for our convention and searched the Scriptures for the mind of the Lord and the leadership of the Holy Spirit before arriving at this decision. The Board believes that Ken's public criticism of the convention itself and other speakers at our convention require him to surrender the spiritual privilege of addressing our homeschool audience.Please know that our Board is 100% young earth and we largely share AIG's perspective from a scientific standpoint. That is why Ken was originally invited and treated so graciously and extremely generously in Memphis and Greenville (far beyond what we do for other speakers or their ministries). Our expression of sacrifice and extraordinary kindness towards Ken and AIG has been returned to us and our attendees with Ken publicly attacking our conventions and other speakers. Our Board believes Ken's comments to be unnecessary, ungodly, and mean-spirited statements that are divisive at best and defamatory at worst.
One of the core values of our convention is that we believe that good people can disagree and still be good people. We believe that Christians do not need to personally question the integrity, the intelligence, or the salvation of other Christians when debating Biblical issues. Ken has obviously felt led to publicly attack our conventions and a number of our speakers. We believe that what Ken has said and done is unChristian and sinful. A number of attendees are demanding explanations from our board and we must respond to them.
We believe that Dr. Ham is very intelligent and deliberate and that he decided that publicly slandering our conventions and defaming a number of our speakers is what he wanted to do. Whereas Ken chooses to conduct himself in a way that we believe to be unscriptural, we cannot countenance that spirit as we believe it would not honor the Savior whom we serve.
A public statement will be prepared for distribution at the convention explaining our Board's decision. Anyone who inquires regarding Dr. Ham or AIG will be referred to that statement. We have no intention to defame or publicly slander Dr. Ham, the Creation Museum, or the work of AIG. Our Board would respectfully request that Dr. Ham and AIG prayerfully consider doing the same. Our Board takes seriously the admonition of Jesus in John 13:35, "By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Sincerely,
Brennan Dean
Great Homeschool Conventions, Inc.
No, not christian at all. Must be those damn Unitarians.

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Theodoric
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Message 58 of 76 (609986)
03-25-2011 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Buzsaw
03-25-2011 9:50 AM


Re: Homeschooling conventions
Buzsaw writes:
subbie writes:
But it will be expected of you that if you reject a theory that you provide either evidence undermining it or an alternative theory that better explains the evidence. Can you do that for the ToE?
There is a need for objective people like Slevesque who are knowledgeable and objective about all science PoVs. Not all are stuck on our way or the highway in their class rooms.
My advice to Slevesque is to continue learning all he can about everything. He will be able to teach effectively in both creationist and ToE classes and do it more objectively than someone who has learned only one science view.
If more of our educators, in both camps, were as knowledgeable as Slevesque is going to be when he graduates, perhaps, the best of both PoVs will prevail in the minds of the young impressionable minds of students being taught when they graduate.
You speak so highly about him as if you know him personally. You know nothing about him or his intelligence or capabilities. Do you think so highly of him and praise his abilities so much just because he is a creationist christian?

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