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Message 21 of 122 (601389)
01-20-2011 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by slevesque
01-20-2011 1:01 AM


does Darwin or the Bible lead to atheism.
The majority of Atheists I know (and that's probably more than the average) say that it was reading the Bible that caused them to become Atheists.

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Message 24 of 122 (601400)
01-20-2011 10:10 AM
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01-20-2011 10:02 AM


Before Darwin
Long before Darwin there was Jainism, Buddhism, The Vedas of Ceylon, Taoism, folk like Epicurus ...

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Message 26 of 122 (601405)
01-20-2011 10:24 AM
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01-20-2011 10:18 AM


Re: Before Darwin
But the idea and actual support of there being no God or Gods is not something new. Look at Psalm 14 as an indication.

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Message 43 of 122 (601442)
01-20-2011 1:38 PM
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01-20-2011 1:35 PM


claims are nice.
OK, let's start with "When did atheism actually start to increase?" My hypothesis is that the sharpest increase in the number of atheists was in 1860, the year after the publication of On the Origin of Species, or shortly thereafter.
And if I had a hypothesis that the sharpest increase was in June of 1849 or May of 1803 or November of 1917 what data is available to test each?

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Message 53 of 122 (601498)
01-20-2011 9:32 PM
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01-20-2011 9:23 PM


I'm old and forgetfull but ...
... didn't the Enlightenment start just after Darwin published "On the Origin of Species"?

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Message 60 of 122 (601507)
01-20-2011 10:09 PM
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01-20-2011 10:00 PM


Re: I'm old and forgetfull but ...
His Grandfather? Wow. So it's likely Darwin might have grown up in a skeptical environment?

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Message 90 of 122 (601745)
01-23-2011 8:48 PM
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01-23-2011 8:41 PM


Re: You What?
I'm sorry but what the hell do your really silly questions have to do with any god, God or GOD?

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jar
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Message 93 of 122 (601755)
01-23-2011 10:03 PM
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01-23-2011 9:55 PM


Re: You What?
I can certainly answer the first one, have written many stories about those times. The second question is just plain stupid, word salad, meaningless. The third is also as stupid. There is no such point.
And again I must ask, what the hell do your really silly questions have to do with any god, God or GOD?

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Message 97 of 122 (601761)
01-23-2011 10:39 PM
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01-23-2011 10:37 PM


Re: You What?
And again I must ask, what the hell do your really silly questions have to do with any god, God or GOD?
Even more, what the hell does your nonsense have to do with the topic?

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Message 98 of 122 (601762)
01-23-2011 10:51 PM
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01-23-2011 10:23 PM


Re: You What?
What is so funny about petro's crap is it implies that my knowledge of myself actually has something to do with the reality of GOD. It's like he worships poor little Tinker and unless we squeeze our eyes really tight and repeat "I do believe in fairies, I do believe in fairies" the god he tries to market will have it's greem glow fade away.

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Message 100 of 122 (601764)
01-23-2011 10:59 PM
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01-23-2011 10:52 PM


Re: You What?
I get the feeling it always past 5:00 where he is.

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Message 112 of 122 (601957)
01-25-2011 9:07 AM
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01-25-2011 5:35 AM


Consider someone like Thomas Jefferson. It seems plausible that he could have followed Darwin’s findings. What seems less clear to me would be an assertion that he would have turned atheist. Why wouldn’t the ToE have simply confirmed his deism?
Timeline.

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