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Author | Topic: The evidence for design and a designer - AS OF 10/27, SUMMARY MESSAGES ONLY | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Page not found – Pinkoski.com You lose.
quote: You are the one that went off topic and attacked those that accept certain aspects of the Bible as literal interpretations of historical events. YOU went off topic, and YOU are wrong. Stick to the subject now. I don't want to throw away my time talking off topic. Though even on topic, talking with you is the same thing.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: What? Google earth can see underwater now? F*ing cool. But since the Bible says a great wind separated the waters, and exposed the sand, one could assume that the sand bar is under water...which it is, between Nuweiba and Midian, in the Gulf of Aqaba. Goodbye.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Perfect. This is yet a prime example of how someone can misinterpret physical information to draw incorrect conclusions. In order to make a intelligent assumption, I would have gained more insight by asking a mechanical engineer about the antenna, and it's proper shape and function. More information means more accurate conclusion. As science advances, we understand even once thought simple organisms are amazingly complex, and thus tilts evidence for design. I got one. http://www.avland.co.uk/sony/ers7/ers7lrg.jpg Designed or evolved?
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Forbidden Again, the sand bar runs the length of the Red Sea, underwater. Off topic, stay on topic, see map for furthur clarification.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: No. As I have said in many messages before, I'm an oilfield man. But it's precisely for this reason that I am in favour of a designer. I do have some background in molecular biology, a requirement for my current position, though not to the extent that most others have, and I am convinced that I could spend my entire life attempting to understand DNA's inner workings completely. It can at LEAST be considered plausible that an intelligent designer was behind something this complex (complexity being that I could not begin to fully understand it, even with my small schooling on the subject).
quote: Formation of water, and any other matter by natural process is a requirement if there is no deity, leaving evolution aside. This forum is for evidence of a designer. I am saying that all the elements on earth are a prime example of a designer, being that water is the source of almost all life, and it is the most abundant fluid on the planet. Random accident?
quote: Good, then we can start by asking, again, how did complex structures, DNA to be specific, arise naturally?
quote: My stupid questions have betrayed failure? They have betrayed failure...think about that...
quote: You guys? What do you mean, you guys? You saying that cause I'm black?
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: I'm not sure who got the link, but there is a specific link on the map of the Red Sea that shows depths. You are wrong, I just don't care to find it...it's 5am here. Go find the link and look at the picture.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Sure it does. Though it is chemically driven and follows certain rules, it created you, top to bottom. DNA created your brain, which has intelligent and unique thought processes. DNA has design, function, and purpose. It falls under the same principles as anything else designed, such as a hammer, or a car. Though DNA is not supernaturally guided, neither are humans, yet humans design.
quote: But isn't that the point? All complex things that are designed have blueprints, or a storage of information. BTW, not all DNA codes for proteins.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
I clicked your map (sorry, busy at work these days). You can't hardly see any detail at all. My link was much better, plus my map was of the Gulf of Aqaba, where the Bible says the crossing happened, a gulf that is part of the Red Sea.
Forbidden About 15% of the way down is a depth chart of the possible crossing site.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Okay. Forbidden Around 15% of the way down the page. The Sea of Aqaba, a part of the Red Sea, is the possible crossing site. If you guys used google for all of 5 minutes you could find this stuff.
quote: Since the sand bar is already there, I wouldn't require one to be built.
quote: I don't. But the Israelites would have. Even if God did part the waters, each individual crossed by choice, and on their own strength. It would seem unlikely that they would cross deep waters, that were too sloped, as this would cause injury leading to eventual death. Also the egyptians pursued the Israelites, and were swallowed up by the waters, if the slopes were too steep, the fall would have killed them, not the waters.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Nonsense. It's because there are so many variables that make it functional, and stable, that the probability of design is very high. Making the arguement that it happened by accident is meaningless.
quote: So if it's plausible that life was designed, then isn't it possible that everything around us was designed as well? Odds apply alot less if a higher being is involved. If I needed a hammer, I could put a piece of wood and metal on the ground, and wait for it to become a hammer, or I could build it. The odds of it becoming a hammer if I build it is extremely likely, since I have the ability. So if there is a higher being of some kind, the question would be, would he have the ability to accomplish designing earth and the universe.
quote: Possible, and plausible? Now where did you get the hydrogen and oxygen for the formation of water?
quote: If you mean because of the butterfly effect, then no, we wouldn't. We probably wouldn't be born. But if evolution is true, and water didn't exist, who is to say life could not arise using some other abundant source of nutrients, that is stable??
quote: Of course not. Even from a christian perspective, information gives rise to better understanding. Even if the ToE were to fall apart, I wouldn't expect mankind to simply give up on a natural explanation of life, and I don't think they would.
quote: I was meaning to be funny. I am more white than rice. I understood who you meant.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: Funny.
quote: I have a feeling you are leaving alone. Just a glimpse on the rest of your life.
quote: Don't thank me, thank Him. I'll send you His email if you like.
quote: I'm at work. I'm getting 65 bucks an hour to make fun of you, how could I not??
quote: Using evolution as a precursor, absolutely right.
quote: Sure it does. It just doesn't PROVE it.
quote: Much better than, "I can't believe in magic, musta happened by accident." You believe the largest wreck in history created something good. Ever been in a car accident with your Topaz, gotten out, and you are the proud owner of a Ferrari? Give it time, it can happen. You carry on about how ID's, or IDiots, cannot plausibly explain a superbeing that created all life, but do nothing to explain the origins of anything yourself. Your satire remarks are funny, but show little credit with the proposed topic.
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dennis780 Member (Idle past 4807 days) Posts: 288 From: Alberta Joined: |
quote: chariot wheels found in red sea - Google Search Evidence of chariots underwater. Probably because they trained dolphins to pull them around. Page not found – Pinkoski.com Little over half way down, two pillars, one on each side of the crossing site both talk about waters drowning Pharoahs army. Probably photoshopped.
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