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Author Topic:   The evidence for design and a designer - AS OF 10/27, SUMMARY MESSAGES ONLY
frako
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Message 122 of 648 (587131)
10-17-2010 5:32 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Dawn Bertot
10-17-2010 3:40 AM


Re: Evidence
You fellas need to get a grip on reality and your emotions. Evolution is what it is. But that is just the point Bluescat, the scientific theory allows both positions to be plausible and atleast demonstratable, without fear of contradiction, presently
well creation has one tiny hole in it it assumes a desighner the theory whit the least assumptions is usually correct, unless you find new data that disproves the theory.
EDIT:
in short you want to kill 2 birds whit one stone, prove god, and prove that he desighned us, whit out god there is no desighn possible, and whit out desighn there is no prof of god. First prove god then we will talk about desighn. After that we may talk about the name of god and witch religion suits him.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 185 of 648 (587428)
10-18-2010 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Dawn Bertot
10-18-2010 7:31 PM


if you admit order is present, is it the possible result of a designer, yes or No?
if you throw a coin 100 times and it lands 50 times on heads and 50 times on tails is order present yes, no? is it desighned yes no?

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frako
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Message 263 of 648 (587669)
10-20-2010 3:45 AM
Reply to: Message 259 by Dawn Bertot
10-20-2010 2:56 AM


Re: Logical Fallacy
before one even implies that order does not imply design, he first needs to remove that order exists to begin with, which is impossible. You fellas are jumping the gun
so tossing a coin 1000 times gets you 500 heads and 500 tails that shows order and that proves that god is using his power to make it so.
and if you mount 2 poles on a frame, and add one pole to each pole in a way that they can all rotate. Every time you lift the poles to the top and drop them they will rotate differently, in a different manner. that is dissorder or unpredictable so god has nothing to do whit that.
do i understand you correctly ?

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frako
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Message 264 of 648 (587671)
10-20-2010 3:48 AM
Reply to: Message 262 by dennis780
10-20-2010 3:35 AM


You pick it up, and immediately assume design, because arrows have a function and purpose
umm so what is the function and pupose of humans. and what is the function and purpose of amebas, and viruses?

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frako
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Message 266 of 648 (587676)
10-20-2010 4:45 AM
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10-20-2010 4:36 AM


The function of all animals/bacteria is survival of the individual and of the group, always.
but what is their purpose you can say that god gave us cows for milk, horses to ride on, why has he given us the ameba ?? What is the purpose of the ameba?
You have no purpose, because you aren't livin for the Lord baby.
um what if you have no purpose too cause you are not living for Allah.

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frako
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Message 270 of 648 (587683)
10-20-2010 5:52 AM
Reply to: Message 268 by dennis780
10-20-2010 5:19 AM


Amoeba's are major consumers of bacteria in soil ecosystems and are believed to occupy the same key role there as flagellates do in aquatic ecosystems (recycling bacterial productivity and nutrient regeneration/continued functioning of the ecosystem). They eat algae and other protozoans (though they
can also be parasitic), and thus help play a part in regulation of these ecosystems as well.
In short, regulatory, and FOOD.
well there are tones of other species that do that, some way better than the amoeba, so why this 5t wheel on our car. And what purpose do viruses have?
why do you think anything has a purpose?

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frako
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Message 275 of 648 (587693)
10-20-2010 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 272 by Buzsaw
10-20-2010 8:46 AM


Re: The Biblical Designer Did The Whole Enchilada
Secondly, Evidence has been debated relative to scientific research, fossils, living alleged extinct things, archeological research, social/curtural phenomena, fulfilled prophecy, and history etc. relative to the existence of a higher intelligence than that observed on itty bitty speck, Planet Earth, by relatively teeny little pea brain human creatures.
fossils- tones of them what is wrong whit that, al dated milions of years old
living alleged extinct things- what is wrong whit that so science cant ever be wrong on that sorry we missed some living examples of that species
arheological reserch - um yea all of it pointing to an old erth, no GLOBAL flood ....
social/curtural phenomena - um like muslims killing themselves whit others so they can go to allah, or buddist in india that where walking twords english soldies whit their hands behind therir back getting shot and killed until the english stopped shooting
fulfilled prophecy - shure i prophesised that obama would win the election those that make me a prophet
and history - like the arrival of atheism 2500 years before christ
so all of this points to god you say.
p.s. sorry abbout the spelling im in a rush gona spell check later.

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frako
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Message 558 of 648 (588407)
10-25-2010 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 557 by Dawn Bertot
10-25-2010 9:17 AM


Witnessing and event first hand, does not need someone elses coroboration or more test for it to be proof a an event or thing immediately, to that person
so you are saying all those people that get abducted and "probed" actually do get abducted and "probed"

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Message 564 of 648 (588419)
10-25-2010 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 563 by onifre
10-25-2010 1:36 PM


change blindness is fun
there are also other things our brains can not cope whit say a pickpocket asks for directions shows the person a map while he is explaining the route he tuches him on the shoulder whit one arm and he can use the other arm to take the wallet out of the persons back pocket the 2 tasks of explaining the route and the tucch on the shoulder are enough to owerwhelm the brain causing it to not notice the 3 tuch where the wallet is. the same method can be used to do other stuff to or to confuse people.
our brains are not perfect we get things wrong more times than we think.
now go and pick some pockets

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