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Author Topic:   The evidence for design and a designer - AS OF 10/27, SUMMARY MESSAGES ONLY
Son
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Message 40 of 648 (585467)
10-08-2010 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by barbara
10-06-2010 12:22 PM


Re: What experiments?
Wait, do you mean your theory of ID says that each group of humans from different regions were created separately? I mean, you seem to say that we all have different ID marker-traits. So, would you say that species having different marker-traits don't have a common ancestor? If it's not the case, what does those ID marker-traits indicate at all?

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Message 586 of 648 (588519)
10-26-2010 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 584 by Dawn Bertot
10-26-2010 9:30 AM


DB writes
Ofcourse this will be your opinion. For example, and Ihave always wondered why if all types of primates now exist and numerous races of humans now exist, why and how all forms of hommoinids, (if I am spelling that right) seemed to have fanished
Seems strange that not one example of something not excally primate andnot fully human would not have survived. Hmmmmm?
For that, you just need to see what happened to Indians in America. And that was "civilized" and christian people doing that. To make the answer short, when two species occupy the same ecological niche (especially one as murderous as humans), one is going to go extinct.

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Son
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Message 587 of 648 (588520)
10-26-2010 10:49 AM
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10-26-2010 9:49 AM


The problem, whether you agree or not, is that Evolution has lots of work behind it, ID doesn't have much beside what you call logic. Did Einstein petitioned public schools to get his theory accepted? Did Niels Bohr do that? Did Georges Lemaitre insist that his theory be taught in shools? Actually, did any scientists ever appealed to the public to get their theories taught in schools? The fact is that all scientific theories that get taught in schools never appealed to the public at large to influence school policy, they always followed the scientific process and became taught when the scientific community accepted it.
You can argue that your way is better, but it's certainly not science. Why don't you insist religious and like minded people create their own version of science? If you are right and your method is better, you will get better results by taking into account this designer in about every domain. You already have fundings (all those megachurches) and plenty of motivated people to do this.
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Son
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Message 591 of 648 (588536)
10-26-2010 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 590 by Modulous
10-26-2010 12:56 PM


Ah, I forgot this topic was supposed to be about ID and not Evolution. As a result, I responded to him about the first quote. Funny how everytime IDer discuss ID, they have to bring up Evolution and make a debate about it. If they truly believed ID was a scientific theory, it shouldn't be happening.
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Son
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Message 629 of 648 (588672)
10-27-2010 11:27 AM


I really learned something here: admins at EvC forum have been wise to put this topic in the "free for all". Otherwise, after lots of repetition, no information and 600 posts, it feels like the quality of creationnists at this site is degrading (or maybe I'm getting bored at their repetitiveness). Dawn Bertot threw around the words evidence, logic and reality but showed no sign of understanding the scientific method, sometimes it felt like he thought he followed it but I'm not sure.

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