The evidence for design and a designer - AS OF 10/27, SUMMARY MESSAGES ONLY

I strongly suspect that the problem isn't a language one but a comprehension one. Dawn seems to have a unique way of thinking that, as far as I can tell, is not shared by any other person. His posts are largely incomprehensible by just about everyone here. And all available evidence suggests that he does not really understand what other people are saying. I'm afraid that I must take no small measure of responsibility for his presence here.I ran into him at a PBS discussion board, related to the Kitzmiller shenanigans if memory serves, and invited him to EvC. Had I fully appreciated the depth of his inability to constructively engage in reasoned debate, I likely would not have invited him. Ah well, hindsight is 20/20.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

I've previously tried to engage you in a battle of wits on the field of reason and found you completely unarmed. I see no reason to repeat the exercise in futility.At a minimum, you'd need to learn basic punctuation skills before I'd even venture an attempt.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Here is an example of a specific antenna arrangement that was not designed. NASA settled on this arrangement through the process of an evolutionary algorithm where different arrangements were tested to see which gave the best results, then those were combined randomly to arrive at new arrangements which were tested to see which gave the best results which were then combined randomly, etc.Let me try to put it into simpler terms. Are you familiar with the term "trial and error?" In essence, it's someone trying to get to a solution testing a number of different options until he stumbles upon the one that works best. No intelligence need go into the process; simple random examination of various possibilities will eventually arrive at a workable solution. That's evolution in a nutshell. Billions upon billions of different organisms with billions upon billions of different combinations over millions upon millions of years, resulting in nature as we see it today. No need for any intelligent input of any sort. This is simply not true. All that is necessary for evolution to proceed is for one small change to take place that gives one individual a competitive advantage over others. That individual will produce more offspring, and more of its genetic information will appear is succeeding generations. It really is just that simple. If you disagree, please explain why.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Is the wire arrangement in this antenna complex?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

​

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

Does the wire arrangement in this antenna have what you call purpose or specificity?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

​

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

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...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

A wonderful response. Clear, concise, and consistent with the positions you've previously laid out. I applaud your effort.Unfortunately, your conclusion is incorrect. The antenna arrangement was not designed. It was a result of random changes.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

​

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

​

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what point you are making.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

​

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

​

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

​

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

So then you agree that purpose or specificity can be created by random processes?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

​

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

​

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

​

...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist