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The evidence for design and a designer - AS OF 10/27, SUMMARY MESSAGES ONLY

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jar
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Message 571 of 648 (588460)
10-25-2010 7:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 570 by Dawn Bertot
10-25-2010 7:40 PM

Dawn Bertot writes:
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not necessarily what is, "in my mind", but what logic and physical properties will allow
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What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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10-25-2010 8:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 573 by Dawn Bertot
10-25-2010 8:08 PM

physical properties of the designer.
Dawn Bertot writes:
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jar writes:
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What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?
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One might ask the same of Jar's existence
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Your a funny guy jar jar, you just cant stay on point can you. You should have said what relevance or worth does reality have in determining a logical approach and conclusion concerning design. what will it allow as far as evidnece goes
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But I did not ask about jar's existence.
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You had said:
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Dawn Bertot writes:
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not necessarily what is, "in my mind", but what logic and physical properties will allow
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And so I asked "What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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10-25-2010 8:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 577 by Dawn Bertot
10-25-2010 8:26 PM

Re: physical properties of the designer.
I think this time you said:
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Dawn Bertot writes:
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Dawn Bertot writes:
not necessarily what is, "in my mind", but what logic and physical properties will allow
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jar writes
And so I asked "What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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if you read my comment in its context, it will expalin it to your satisfaction
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Your a funny guy Jar a funny guy. your last name is not Binks is it
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now if you will excuse me, I have to see who my Vikings are playing next week, I think Bret was texting during the game last night, even while he was on the field, that could have been why we lost. its hard to text and throw a ball at the same time. I just dont see how he does it without us seeing the phone in his hands
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Dawn Bertot
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However I still do not understand and I'm not satisfied.
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any effect, relevance or influence in life we see?
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Is the answer supposed to be in the following reply found in Message 573?
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jar writes:
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What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?
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One might ask the same of Jar's existence
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Your a funny guy jar jar, you just cant stay on point can you. You should have said what relevance or worth does reality have in determining a logical approach and conclusion concerning design. what will it allow as far as evidnece goes
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Dawn Bertot
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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10-26-2010 6:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 593 by Dawn Bertot
10-26-2010 4:46 PM

Dawn was not sunrise but simply the glow of ignorance.
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i believe those are the same people that are still here getting free things from the government correct. i think the economy will go extinct before they do. I have nothing against indians, I just dont think people should get things free because thier ancestors were involved in this or that
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By that reasoning I should be in jail because of Musalini, if that is how you spell his name. enough is enough, get over it and move on
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While those indians back then suffered great indignities, those today are just riding the gravy train
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If you include having you land stolen, your sacred sites desecrated, your people confined to reservations and constant discrimination riding the gravy train then you might have a point. But so far you are simply showing that you know as little about history or the US today as you do about science, reason, logic or honesty.
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And you still have not explained the two questions asked.
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any effect, relevance or influence in life we see?"
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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10-26-2010 11:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 609 by Dawn Bertot
10-26-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Dawn was not sunrise but simply the glow of ignorance.
And once again, not only did you not address the point I made about your attempt to misdirect the discussion, you refused to answer the two questions that are on topic.
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any effect, relevance or influence in life we see?"
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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10-26-2010 11:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 615 by Dawn Bertot
10-26-2010 11:40 PM

Re: Dawn was not sunrise but simply the glow of ignorance.
And you once again simply refuse to address the issue.
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You said:
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Dawn Bertot writes:
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not necessarily what is, "in my mind", but what logic and physical properties will allow
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You said there were physical properties related to the designer.
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So the questions remain.
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any worth or relevance?"
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"What physical properties of the designer allow it to have any effect, relevance or influence in life we see?"
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 626 of 648 (588668)
10-27-2010 9:42 AM

It doesn't matter if there was a Designer!
So far absolutely no one has shown any reason why even if there was a designer, it would have any merit or worth beyond a historical footnote or in the case of Product Liability suits.
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Even if true, it tells us nothing about how the world we see around us developed. We still need to figure out how things happened, what the model is, and for that, science so far has been the only process that has been shown to work.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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