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Author Topic:   Why do Creationists have faith in a second rate creator?
slevesque
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Message 13 of 82 (536224)
11-20-2009 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
11-18-2009 11:09 AM


Obvious Troll is obvious
Besides I agree with CS here, you didn't define ''perfect''. I know that in greek the word aken for ''perfect'' (as in the quote CS found) had a meaning similar to ''mature'' or ''complete''.
You seem to be saying, ''creating the world in 4 days is better than in 6, and so my 4-day creator is closer to perfection than the 6-day creator''.

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slevesque
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Message 18 of 82 (536236)
11-20-2009 3:25 PM
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11-20-2009 2:31 PM


Well, I did give the meaninng of the greek word that we translate as 'perfect'.
In the greek, it would be close to ''mature'' or ''complete''. Or perhaps ''How it is supposed to be''. (''Flawless'' or ''without error'' would be pretty close also, but I think the previous are closer to the idea I have of perfection)
We can take as an example a circle. We talk of a perfect circle when it is ''how it is supposed to be''. Which is defined by the mathematical description of a circle. Same goes for a perfect equilateral triangle.
Given this definition of perfect, it would not make any sense to try and compare a circle and a triangle as to see which one is ''more perfect''. I could say corners are a bad thing, and so the triangle would be less perfect than the circle. And it would be more perfect than a square. Of course, I think we all agree that this doesn't really add up to even the common understanding of perfection. Circle, triangle and square can all be perfect if they are ''complete'' and ''how they are supposed to be'' in regards to the mathematical description of each one.
In the same way, God is perfect. 6 days creation or 4 days creation does not make any difference.

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