From hundreds of Christian preachers - and I've heard Muslims claim the same about their god. Are you seriously claiming you've never heard anyone say that?
No, I'm not claiming that. I was inquiring about were YOU got the idea so I knew where you where comming from and how you wanted the discusison to unfold. If you got the idea from the Bible then I'd be talking about that.
I'm not a biblical scholar, but I'm fairly sure that the Bible refers to God being perfect (or words to that effect).
Heh, reminds me of: "I'm no biologist, but I'm sure evolution is random."
Maybe someone can find such quotes.
I did find one. Matt 5:48:
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Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Did I claim it said so in the Bible anyway? Not all claims made about God are in the Bible. Who made up the rule that the Bible is the only source of information on God?
You wrote:
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that is supposed to be perfect (such as God of the Bible)
I take the "God of the Bible" to mean how the Bible describes God, not what preachers say what the Bible describes God as.
Not all claims made about God are in the Bible. Who made up the rule that the Bible is the only source of information on God?
The rules, aka assumptions, are made by the OP. If you don't want to limit this to the Bible then we don't have to.
Can you walk me throught the logic? How does your capability of making up a better god necessitate that previous gods were made up?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "previous" gods?
You were talking about gods of antiquity, they came before your gods in the OP, so they were before them, or "previous".
Anyway, what is a god if it isn't some kind of perfect, or at least "super", being? If a god/creator is so superior to us, why doesn't it conduct itself in a manner that is far superior to anything we can imagine?
Well if we define god as perfect then he actually is superior to anything you can imagine.
If an idiot like me can so easily see how a god/creator can improve itself, it is obvious that it isn't a super being at all, because it would have ensured it was always at least as good as I could ever imagine.
But you are assuming that creating the world in 4 days instead of 6 is better. That not necessarily true.
Basically, all your doing is decribing a way that your god could have done things
diferently and then claiming that your differences are better so therefore the Bible god isn't perfect anymore. You really haven't supported how your differences are better though. Also, if we assume that Bible God is, in fact, perfect, then his way has to be the better of the ways rather than the way that you imagined.