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Author Topic:   Immigration Bill is Un-American
macaroniandcheese 
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Message 98 of 115 (414742)
08-06-2007 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by RAZD
08-05-2007 1:40 PM


Re: Reality versus talking points
I repeat: any immigration policy that discriminates between individuals violates these American concepts of equality and rights, most especially the right to the pursuit of happiness.
sorry for the nitpick, but it's a real and serious problem.
we don't have a right to any pursuit of happiness. it's a statement in the declaration of independence which is not a government document and has nothing to do with the constitution or any guarantee of rights.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 103 of 115 (414776)
08-06-2007 10:23 AM
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08-06-2007 7:42 AM


Re: Reality versus talking points
naturally. i decided to correct you here.
You are free to believe that.
there were no united states when that document was written. it was not approved by congress nor ratified by the states. it's full of values and ideals, sure, but it is sentiment and not a government document and has no power as a binding legal contract.
it's not a belief, it's simple, solid governmental fact. likewise, the statue of liberty holds a poem. also not a binding document. while we may perhaps deserve some right to happiness, it is not guaranteed us.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

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Message 105 of 115 (414780)
08-06-2007 10:48 AM
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08-06-2007 10:43 AM


Re: Reality versus talking points
it lays out the rights of people that cannot be taken away by government(s)
good luck with that in court.

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Message 111 of 115 (415030)
08-07-2007 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by jar
08-07-2007 6:39 PM


Re: The problem is NJ keeps repeating falsehoods
also, all the illegal aliens who use fake social security numbers pay income tax and social security and don't get refunds or benefits.

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