Discrimination ok, if based on religion? what else then?

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/...051127/news_1n27ucsuit.htmlIs about a lawsuit brought by students that are trying to substitute an alternate course of their choosing for one required by the university for admission. The university position is clear:

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UC lawyers say Calvary Chapel students are free to study as they choose, but they still must take courses approved by the university system - or alternately take an SAT subject test - to gain admission to one of the UC's 10 campuses.

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Either take the required courses like everyone else or take the SAT on the subject material. If they cannot pass the SAT on the subject material then there is no issue eh? If they can pass the SAT on the subject material then there is no issue eh? This is what every home schooled child is up against too.It is the role of the school teaching the course to get it accredited with the universities to count for admission requirements. It is not the role of students trying to use a non-accredited course in place of an accredited course to change admission standards. If their high school (Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murietta) misrepresented the course to them and they took it thinking it filled a university requirement, then their suit is properly with Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murietta not the university.That is not discrimination, that is just simple academic standards.

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"This appears to be coming in as the first wave in an assault," said Barmak Nassirian, an official with the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers, who sees the lawsuit as an effort by a special-interest group to improperly shape admissions requirements.

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I would expect that if the requirement was to take an accredited course in american history, and a student took a course titled "The Role of Thomas Jefferson in American History" that it would NOT meet that requirement, even though Jefferson had a bigger role in american history than christianity.

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The complaint, pushed by the Association of Christian Schools International, alleges the university's decision violates the First Amendment religious-practice rights of the students, including two who plan to attend UC San Diego.

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The lawsuit "is one piece of the culture war that is ongoing in our country for a number of years," said Robert Tyler, who represents the students and heads the group Advocates for Faith and Freedom. "It's important for our clients to take a stand at this time to prevent the intolerance of the UC and to prevent them from attempting to secularize private Christian schools."

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There goes the loony right trying to re-write history and academic standards ... and push a political religious agenda.Trying to force the admission of students that don't meet academic standards because they are religious is trying to cause discrimination based on being religious.Enjoy.

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I don't think that churches should be in adoption programs from the get-go.Should such an agency have to decide between two couples, one {in church} and one not, I cannot see them making an unbiased decision on what is best for the child.

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Because intro to Buddhism is not a history course, nor does it presume to replace a history course that is on the required list for admission to the university. What it DOES show is diversity in OTHER curricula interests. A university sets minimum requirements for history math science etc and then has other criteria to evaluate diversity of interests.I used to interview students for admission to my alma mater (Duke) and the issue of diversity was high on choosing between students once the REQUIRED standards had been met, but it did not replace the required standards.The university response that the students can take the SAT in the subject shows they are talking about a required standard and not a diversity one. But that doesn't stop you from making unwarranted assertions.The SAT's only apply for required courses: taking them is like taking the GED exam -- it shows you have minimum proficiency in the required material to meet the university requirements.General Educational Development - Wikipedia Because it is not ALL of american history, so this is not enough to meet a requirement to have a background in american history. Unquestionable? Central?Show me where democracy, equality, liberty and freedom are developed from Judeo-Christian ideals. The things that differentiate american politics from the theocratic or the king\subject politics of pre-revolution america and from the politics of other countries is what defines american politics.Show me how these Judeo-Christian ideals form the difference between america and other countries.Enjoy.

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What does the Calvary Chapel Christian School in Murietta teach?http://www.cccsmurrieta.com/secondary/aboutus.asp

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Mission Statement

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EQUIPPING TODAY FOR TOMORROW

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All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17

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Philosophy of Education

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The basis of our philosophy is belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ our Savior, the Holy Spirit, and God’s Word - the Bible. We believe in the authority and reliability of the Bible as the complete and final revelation of God concerning all matters of faith, truth and practice. MORE

Philosophy of Education cont.

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The basis of our philosophy is belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ our Savior, the Holy Spirit, and God’s Word - the Bible. We believe in the authority and reliability of the Bible as the complete and final revelation of God concerning all matters of faith, truth and practice.

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All our goals and objectives are based on the Bible. These goals and objectives include:
1. All that we do is to the glory of God (I Corinthians 10:31).
2. Our primary goal is to assure the salvation of all of our students (Matthew 28:19,20).
3. To promote the maturity of our students in doctrine and practice (Ephesians 6:4 & Colossians 1:28,29).
4. To train our students in Christian service and ministry (II Timothy 2:2).
5. Teach our students a sound mastery of basic skills, self-discipline, and good work habits.

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What is a Warrior?

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noun: A man engaged or experienced in warfare, a person engaged in some struggle or conflict, a soldier, a champion.

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"For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ." 2 Cor. 10:4-5

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Warrior??? What does that have to do with education? Sounds like they are being prepared more for {battle with} than for {understanding of} the world. Isn't that just like what Islamic schools are pictured as doing in the middle east?Looking through their curricula I saw a lot of qualifiers "for christ\ian"Doing a google on some of the textsAmerican Republic for Christian Schools
Publisher: Bob Jones University Press (1988) - 2nd edition (June 2000)Amazon.com Says nothing about the book (no reviews either), but Special Voucher Report -- With God On Their Side ... -- Rethinking Schools Online reviewed this and several other christian "textbooks" with these comments:

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My study of textbooks used in evangelical and fundamentalist Christian schools underscores that the materials are biased toward an overwhelmingly conservative point of view on social, political, and religious matters.

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Shorn of the text that makes them uniquely "textbooks" - long passages about the influence of Prince Metternich, descriptions of Thailand's geography, and explanations of the Electoral College - the materials are indistinguishable from the literature of the Religious Right.

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The texts' approach to politics can be summarized this way: Democrats are deluded, liberals are villains, and conservatives are heroes. This is part of a pattern where descriptions used for people, groups, and movements clearly imply that some are unacceptable.

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Abortion and homosexuality are strongly condemned. The coverage of abortion begins in elementary school materials and increases in both detail and vehemence through the grades. Language such as "innocent babies," "grisly procedure," "legalized murder," and "slaughter of unborn babies" is common.

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Another pattern in the Christian school textbooks is that conservatives are cited and quoted with approval, while liberals are given less coverage, omitted, or treated in a critical fashion. A Beka's fourth-grade history text, for example, includes a color photograph and 22 lines about conservative Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. "Through his own hard work and God-given ability," the book says of Thomas, "he earned a law degree and achieved several important government positions." 6 Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American appointed to the court, is not mentioned at all.

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The above material is a partial summary of my research. Analyzing the material in Christian school texts goes a long way to answering the question of why many conservative organizations advocate programs that would privatize U.S. education. Indeed, one of the primary reasons for conservative support of vouchers and various school choice programs is not only to provide financial support for religious schools, but to also expose larger numbers of American students to conservative ideology.

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Cherry picking history to provide only a partial view, one full of distortions, lies of omission, misrepresentations and reactionary right wing propaganda, is not providing an education.There is a culture war going on and the {invaders\instigators\perpetuators} are fundamentalist christian fanatics. This is not education, it is indoctrination. Gettem while their young eh?And you think this should be given credit for university admission? It would serve the school right if they lost their basic accreditation due to review of their material in the trial.Enjoy.

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From San Fransisco Chronicle
Culture war pits UC vs. Christian way of teaching Religious schools challenge admission standards in court

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In a small room at the University of California's headquarters in downtown Oakland, UC counsel Christopher Patti sat beside a stack of textbooks proposed for use by Calvary Chapel Christian School in Riverside County -- books UC rejected as failing to meet freshmen admission requirements.

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Biology and physics textbooks from Christian publishers were found wanting, as were three Calvary humanities courses.

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"The university is not telling these schools what they can and can't teach," Patti said. "What the university is doing is simply establishing what is and is not its entrance requirements. It's really a case of the university's ability to set its own admission standards. The university has no quarrel with Christian schools."

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Hollyn Hollman, a church/state attorney for the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty in Washington, D.C., said the plaintiffs face "a high burden ... to prove they are being discriminated against," based on the rejection of a handful of courses alone.

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But Wendell Bird, lead attorney for the schools, believes, "This is a liberty case, the right of nonpublic institutions to be free. I'd be bringing the same case if the clients were Jewish or Buddhist. It's very troubling to the largest Christian school organization in the country because it restrains freedom and could spread. Many trends tend to start in California."

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In 1978, when he was a law student studying under Robert Bork -- whose rejected nomination to the Supreme Court was an early battle in the culture wars -- Bird published an influential article in the Yale Law Journal. In it, he laid out a strategy for using the courts to compel public schools to teach creationism alongside evolutionary theory.

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Bird later argued, and lost, Edwards vs. Aguillard, before the Supreme Court. In that case, the justices overturned an attempt by Louisiana to give biblical creationism equal time in its public schools.

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However, the Calvary Chapel case offered Bird and his allies fertile new ground for advancing the conservative Christian agenda in the public square.

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UC policy, Patti explained, was to make "a distinction between courses that study religion in an academic way and courses that are intended to instruct in religious faith." He seemed pleased to be asked how, based on the brief course submission forms, UC could distinguish between the two.

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"Here," he said, reading an excerpt from "Biology for Christian Schools," which had been rejected as a text:

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"The people who have prepared this book have tried consistently to put the Word of God first and science second." If, "at any point God's Word is not put first, the author apologizes."

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They'll teach science after the mythology and then only when they have to eh? What a great way to get an education.Enjoy.

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