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RickJB

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Message 204 of 300 (369003)
12-11-2006 11:47 AM

Reply to: Message 200 by crashfrog
12-11-2006 11:17 AM

Re: Crash

Crash writes:

Look, you can believe whatever you like, I guess, if that's what it takes to make you feel better about yourself. I'm committed, personally, to not telling myself lies just to feel better.

Ahhhh, but when I asked you if you would identify yourself as a potential rapist to a girl on a first date you said "no" because it could be "misinterpreted". Damn right it could! So therefore, we see that despite your posturing you have no more desire to identify yourself as a potential rapist than I do.

Anyway, that wasn't main crux of my point. this was.

RickJB writes:

...would we ask all black kids in rough neighbourhoods to identify themselves as a potential gang members? I think not.

The result of these studies should be use positively in education, not negatively as a labelling device to divide groups.

See?

Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

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RickJB

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Message 207 of 300 (369009)
12-11-2006 12:17 PM

Reply to: Message 205 by crashfrog
12-11-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Crash

These seem like nothing more than empty phrases you're throwing out, again all with an eye towards making yourself feel better.

What's the best way help a kid in bad area from falling into crime?

1. Ask him to identify himself as a potential criminal?
2. Provide him with the education to help him avoid criminality?

Same with young men and rape? Yes?

As for "making myself feel better". I'll say this again, so read it carefully lest you persist in misrepresenting me.

I accept the potential in men (including myself) to commit acts such as rape. I do not accept that need for me to identify myself as a potential rapist any more than than a person of either sex feels the need to identify themselves as a potential murderer.

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RickJB

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Message 224 of 300 (369226)
12-12-2006 3:34 AM

Reply to: Message 208 by crashfrog
12-11-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Crash

Crash writes:

I don't believe I've ever said that men should be introducing themselves as potential rapists. It's my hope that those who realize their potential will be able to make the right choice in an ambiguous situation. It's my fear that those who don't see any potential in themselves for rape will rape, simply because they will take sexual advantage in an ambiguous situation, saying to themselves all the while "hey, I'm no rapist; therefore what I'm doing right now definately isn't rape."

Okay. Thanks for the clarification!

We'll let the dust settle then shall we?

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Message 225 of 300 (369227)
12-12-2006 3:40 AM

Reply to: Message 223 by macaroniandcheese
12-12-2006 1:10 AM

Re: on the shady side of the street

Jeez, that's harsh Brenna.

So what conclusions about men in general (assuming all the acts were committed by men) does that lead you to, if you don't mind me asking?

Is it a problem with men per se, or perhaps the culture into which they have been born?

Brenna writes:

and on top of all that. i want to get an iud because i don't want to squirt anything out, but i can't because i'm not married and i can't be trusted to protect myself from infections.

This is truly shocking. Is this a local policy - no long-term contraceptives to unmarried women? Does this same apply to the pill?

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