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crashfrog
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Message 5 of 300 (366965)
11-29-2006 7:39 PM


1) I think physics, chemistry, and mathematics are "fake" sciences in that they do not study the natural world, but rather, study simplified mathematical models about it.
2) I'm tired of hearing about the Holocaust. It's usually invoked as an excuse for Israel to do whatever it wants. As a historical event, it happened, and people who say otherwise should be opposed; but there's no additional need to have "awareness" of it.
3) Religion is pretty much ridiculous.
4) Firefly was a pretty crappy show. The Serenity movie was ok but they killed everybody I had a half-interest in watching. Joss Whedon is a douche.

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crashfrog
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Message 33 of 300 (367160)
11-30-2006 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by arachnophilia
11-30-2006 4:08 AM


or rather, religions. mathematicians readily admit it's a religious idea, based on the faith in their initial axioms.
I don't see it as religion. Even in mathematics, there's a rigor that leads to faulty models or hypotheses being rejected. But nothing is ever rejected in religion.
well, there is, but only so it doesn't happen again.
Well, I didn't mean we should forget about the Holocaust - just, there's no need to have any more "Holocaust awareness" events or whatever. (They were pretty big on stuff like that when I went to college. Maybe it's just me?) Everybody's heard of the Holocaust by now.
speaking of which, allow to reiterate exactly how much his script for alien: resurrection blew.
...no wonder that movie totally blew. Like, what I can't figure out is - when Hollywood wants to make a space marine movie, why do they look to anybody but James Cameron and Bill Paxton? Space marine movies without Bill Paxton suck. Incontrovertable fact.

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crashfrog
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Message 42 of 300 (367252)
12-01-2006 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by dwise1
12-01-2006 10:35 AM


You don't yet understand what I'm saying.
That's not true. Religion rejects anything that might even begin to appear to conflict with its followers' misunderstanding of their beliefs.
Right. One specific religion might reject one or another position.
But the adherents of that position don't usually abandon their position; they split off and start their own religion.
Nothing is ever abandoned in religion. Even that which appears to be abandoned is usually picked up again, in a "revival" movement. In science, adherents of wrong positions either die or are convinced of their error. In religion they spawn their own split-off religions. Why wouldn't they? From what basis can one religion tell another their beliefs are wrong?

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crashfrog
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Message 63 of 300 (367475)
12-02-2006 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Archer Opteryx
12-01-2006 9:56 PM


Someone should make a movie epic of Wagner's 'Ring of the Nibelungs.'
"So, I have this idea for a great movie. It's about two gnomes who find a bracelet of power, and they have to take it to the Burning Steppes and cast it into the Cauldron. They form the Brotherhood of the Bracelet. Along the way they're trailed by a murloc named Gottum, who's obsessed with the bracelet, and nine bracelet boogeymen. It could be a three parter, called 'Ruler of the Bracelet'. The first part would be called 'The Brotherhood of the Bracelet', followed by 'A Couple of Towers', with a climactic ending called 'Hey, the King's Back!'"

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crashfrog
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Message 66 of 300 (367509)
12-02-2006 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by BMG
12-02-2006 6:44 PM


Possibly the greatest movie director of all time is Stanley Kubrick.
If by "greatest" you mean "most boring." Only Stanley Kubrick could make a sex movie that you could sleep through.
Sam Rami is the greatest director who has ever lived. I dare you to watch The Quick and the Dead and then disagree with me.

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crashfrog
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Message 75 of 300 (367550)
12-03-2006 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by BMG
12-03-2006 12:26 AM


But one thing does trouble me with your post: I cannot tell if you are being candid or not.
In a thread about controversial opinions, trust me, I'm being completely serious. I'm dragging out all the opinions that I hold that I know are going to tweak people. (I've got more than enough of those without having to manufacture them.)
Most boring?...really?
I really find Kubrick's movies stupefying, and not in a good way. He's got an eye for visual spectacle, but most everybody does, and Kubrick just doesn't understand pacing, in my opinion. (Or else he's deliberate about trying to put the audience to sleep.)

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crashfrog
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Message 91 of 300 (367602)
12-03-2006 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by nator
12-03-2006 6:55 PM


did you like The shining? I thought that was fucking incredible.
I didn't think it was all that special, I guess.

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crashfrog
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Message 92 of 300 (367603)
12-03-2006 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by nator
12-03-2006 7:08 PM


Re: Here's goes
More than 50% of young men would violently rape a woman if they could be assured of getting away with it.
I thought it was opinions, not facts?

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crashfrog
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Message 99 of 300 (367634)
12-04-2006 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Modulous
12-04-2006 3:10 AM


Re: Here's goes
lol, yes I'm sure one person is able to conclude from their perception of reality the the inner mind of something of the order of a billion people (much more if we include the time dimension - in full or part).
It's a simple survey that they've done several times in the past, Mod. The results are always the same - particularly if you don't call it "rape" in the survey, but simply describe the behavior, more than half of college-aged men would commit those acts if they felt they were sure of getting away with it.
Or at least they say they would. I can't think of any reason they would lie about that.

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crashfrog
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Message 100 of 300 (367635)
12-04-2006 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by JavaMan
12-04-2006 7:53 AM


Re: What is a science?
Hmmm. I'm curious to know what kind of definition of science you have that excludes physics and chemistry (mathematics isn't a science and has never been defined as one).
I've been over it a couple of times, already. Check upthread.
What is the natural world in your opinion?
That in which there are no such things as "points" and "planes" and "parallel lines" and "frictionless pulleys" and "nonelastic ropes" and billiard tables where all the balls are completely spherical, and all the other inventions of mathematics that physicists seem to rely on so dearly, to the exclusion of how pulleys and ropes and billiard tables actually work in real life.
And can you give me an example of a science that doesn't depend on simplified models of the natural world?
Biology. I'm not saying that they're not there, simply that you can't depend on them.

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crashfrog
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Message 116 of 300 (367767)
12-05-2006 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Wounded King
12-04-2006 6:36 PM


Firefly is brilliant.
I don't think this is controversial.
To the contrary; here's me from message 5:
quote:
4) Firefly was a pretty crappy show. The Serenity movie was ok but they killed everybody I had a half-interest in watching. Joss Whedon is a douche.
Seriously, though, when a guy sets out to make a space western and the best he can do is to set The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas on another planet (that looks just like Southern California), full of characters who are all hookers with hearts of gold (as the saying goes), in a bordello called "The Heart of Gold", in an episode called "Heart of Gold", my guess is that you are not dealing with one of the most creative minds in Hollywood. For a good space western, see Cowboy Bebop. (Subbed or dubbed, the dub is better, actually. There's another controversial opinion.)

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crashfrog
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Message 118 of 300 (367777)
12-05-2006 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by RickJB
12-05-2006 11:18 AM


Perhaps it should be 50% of American FRAT-BOYS would violently rape a woman if they thought they'd get away with it?
I didn't see anything in the above that suggested fraternity membership was corellated with score.
I don't understand why this is so hard for you all to accept. Actually, I guess I do - it's fashionable to consider rape such a monstrous crime that one comes to believe that only a monster is capable of it (and certainly, one's friends are certainly not to be considered monsters.)
That's probably the greatest disservice we do to rape victims. The simple truth is that even completely normal men are capable of rape. Many of your friends and family are capable of it. More than likely, you're capable of it yourself. (I won't insult your intelligence by claiming I'm the exception, either.) This is why rape victims, when they come forward, almost always find themselves alone in the midst of a very hostile reception. After all "but we know Jim, we know he's not capable of doing that... you must be a liar, or confused or something. You must not know the way the world works." Whatever that means.
I've seen it happen; seen a rape victim turned on by her "friends" because they were also friends with the rapist, and the fact that they know he's a "good guy" and "could never do that." Well, he did do that.
Schraf is 100% right. The "good guys" are capable of that. The sooner we realize that rape is not merely the province of monsters, but something a majority of guys are capable of, the better.
Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

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crashfrog
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Message 120 of 300 (367788)
12-05-2006 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by nator
12-05-2006 11:53 AM


wherein Crash says "ironic" a lot
Er, it's a western, right?
I don't know, is it? It always seemed to me that it takes more to make a western than sixguns and hokey dialogue. And anyway it's supposed to be a "space western", and so simply taking episodes of "The Lone Ranger" and setting them on the Planet of the Week is taking the easy way out.
Crash, I loves ya, but you don't always get irony, do you?
No, I get irony. (In fact as an English major I was specifically trained in irony.) I also get it when people think being obvious is ironic.
quote:
"Irony" is a literary or rhetorical device in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is generally understood (either at the time, or in the later context of history).
In other words "irony" is the situation where what happens is different than what is expected. An episode about hookers with hearts of gold, at The Heart of Gold, called "Heart of Gold", is the exact opposite of irony.
It's like Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic", which is ironic because none of the situations she describes are actually ironic. Ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife is not ironic. Irony is ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife, and then you get stabbed to death. That's ironic.
It's funny that he named the place and the episode "Heart of Gold".
I didn't really think it was funny. I think it's a sign of a writer thinking he's hot shit on a shingle, and that every goofy idea he has is going to be flat-out hilarious. It's amateurish.

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crashfrog
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Message 122 of 300 (367800)
12-05-2006 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by RickJB
12-05-2006 1:45 PM


How's about I assume that you are capable of crying rape on an innocent man because you're a tease with a victim-complex? Does that sound fair?
... are you aware that I'm male?
One thing I DO know is that my answer to the question as to whether I would commit rape if I thought I could get away with it would be an emphatic NO!
Great, you're in the 41% or whatever. (I did say "more than likely", not "for absolutely certain.") How nice for you. What does that have to do with anything?

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crashfrog
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Message 129 of 300 (367935)
12-06-2006 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by RickJB
12-06-2006 9:23 AM


Perhaps, but any scenario that entirely does away with any possibility of consequence is reaching for the limits of reality.
Whose reality? In real reality, rape is one of the safest crimes to perpetrate; less than 20% of incidents lead to incarceration or punishment of any kind.
Few people commit crimes when they think they're going to get caught. The scenario of "you are sure you could get away with it" isn't unrealistic; that's a position that a lot of people, often incorrectly, see themselves as being in.

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