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Author Topic:   The Universal Moral Law & Devolution since the Fall
Faith 
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Message 181 of 189 (352112)
09-25-2006 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Equinox
09-25-2006 12:57 PM


Re: Testable Hypotheses
OK, someone hasn't looked much at other religions. I've heard the "only in Christianity does God seek man, not vice-versa", from Christians before, and it always shows an ignorance of other religions. Islam is clearly about God seeking man, both by including the history leading up to Abraham and by having God seek out Mohammad to dictate the Qu'ran.
If you READ the Koran AND the Bible you will see this MAJOR difference, IF you are honest, that the Bible records the actual seekings of {edit: man by} God, and all the Koran does is pile up precepts and instructions implying they are from God. There is no prophecy in the Koran, there is nothing but Mohammed's writings about how to behave as a good Muslim. The Bible records historical events in which God chose particular men to do particular tasks, and reports the actual words of God Himself. The Koran's co-opting (and rewriting) portions of the Bible to subsume it under Islam is laughable "evidence" in favor of Islam. There is no comparison and the ignorance is yours.
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Faith 
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Message 182 of 189 (352115)
09-25-2006 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Equinox
09-25-2006 12:57 PM


Why didn't God... appoint Equinox to run things?
Why did God choose only the Jews? Again Christians make out their God to be too small.
We don't "make out our God" at all, we believe what HE has told us. He SAID He chose the Jews JUST BECAUSE HE WANTED TO. He's God isn't He? A people to carry His word and to be the source of His Messiah. Could have been any people. Could have been any man but Abraham. But He chooses whom He chooses. He's God.
Why not inspire the message in several or all cultures?
Well, gee, if you were God you could do it your way. I probably wouldn't have done it God's way either. I'm not smart enough. He did it His way and that's that.
Why not write it in the stars or in the crystallographic lattices of rocks,the leaves of trees and the formations that form when water freezes,
Um He did. But I haven't noticed anybody getting the message, have you? Anybody you know reading the trees and crystals and recognizing that God sent a Savior to save us from our sins? That's the message you know. If God is going to give it in one place He's going to give it in all other places. Same message. If you can't see it in the crystals that has to be your fault not His.
in addition to "inspiring" a single tribe of a bronze-age people with a contradictory and convoluted text, written in malleable words on fragile paper? ]
Words are clearer than rock crystals and leaves when you want to convey a message like the salvation of sinners, wouldn't you guess?
Why then stop all inspiration and expect people 2000 years later to get the right message?
Um, God is God. Got that? I'm not God, I don't know why He did things as He did, I just know He did, and criticizing Him for it seems a tad, well, foolish at least.
And that's supposed to be God seeking man? Even Islam has more recent divine scripture than that.
All the other messages contradict the Bible. Two opposed messages can't both be true. Elementary logic. If you like Islam then go with Islam but don't deceive yourself that it is the same God talking.
DRAT, I THINK THIS IS OFF TOPIC. SORRY I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
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Message 183 of 189 (352119)
09-25-2006 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by ReverendDG
09-23-2006 5:03 AM


Re: Testable Hypotheses
it should matter a lot, how in the world do you convince people if its true or not?
I meant it doesn't matter if you get it or not with respect to its objective veracity. Please read in context.
As for convincing people of its truth I do what I can but that's God's job ultimately.
how can you tell non-believers it is true, if it doesn't show it?
It does show it. That was my point. Your not getting it doesn't change that fact. Just means you're wrong. It can happen believe it or not.

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Faith 
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Message 184 of 189 (352121)
09-25-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by ReverendDG
09-23-2006 5:09 AM


its odd that a person who tries so hard to convince people, says that it doesn't matter if we do or do not think its true.
Sigh. OK I'll say it again. It doesn't matter because it is true whether you believe it or not. Your not believing it doesn't change its being true. You are the loser in that case. That's sad but it doesn't affect the Bible's veracity. For YOU it matters certainly. If you go on not believing it you're in trouble. But that's between you and God. I've done my part.

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Faith 
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Message 188 of 189 (352301)
09-26-2006 5:05 AM


All I was doing was clarifying what I meant since nobody got it. Now you are all jumping on me? For what?

  
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