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The Universal Moral Law & Devolution since the Fall

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Heathen
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09-11-2006 5:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 33 by mjfloresta
09-11-2006 5:00 PM

mjfloresta writes:
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that there was no death pre-fall is indicated by the fact that death was a result OF the fall.
Pain would be the result of me banging my head against the wall, does this mean there was no pain in the world prior to this?
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mjfloresta writes:
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It is the assertion that there was death pre-fall that is scripturally un-supported
Where is is explicitly mentioned that there was NO death before the fall?
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09-12-2006 10:59 AM 		Reply to: Message 38 by mjfloresta
09-11-2006 5:17 PM

Re: Pain is Good
mjfloresta writes:
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It is not explicitly mentioned that there was no death before the fall. It is explicitly mentioned that death entered the world through one man (the implication being Adam)
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care to quote?
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09-12-2006 1:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 61 by mjfloresta
09-12-2006 11:21 AM

Re: Pain is Good
So... not actually part of the genesis story at all, but rather simply Paul's take on things.
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'nuff said.
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