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Author Topic:   Kalam Cosmological argument
nwr
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Message 136 of 178 (334038)
07-21-2006 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Hyroglyphx
07-21-2006 2:24 PM


Strawman
Newtons Law isn't an example of cause and effect???? LOL! Okay, you're cut off. You can't even be reasoned with.
That's a strawman argument. You dishonestly misrepresent my statement. I said Newton's law was not a law of cause and effect. You misrepresent it as not an example of cause and effect.
Oh yes, this coming from someone who has repeatedly rejected the very notion of physical science and physical law because he doesn't know how to get around it, either scientificaly or philosophically, someone who refuses to answer the questions asked of him without, himself, answering those questions with more questions, and someone who presents baseless assertions, like, "it has long since been rejected by science."
Another strawman.
I challenge you to prove that I have "rejected the very notion of physical science." (Start a new thread, as appropriate).
You have repeatedly presented philosophical "laws", and misrepresented them as laws of physics. Sure, I have questioned these. I have asked for you to provide some basis for them. So now, because I dare point out that you have been presenting a bogus argument, you arbitrarily declare that I have rejected science.
You're cut off.
Yes. You are stumped. You are unable to deal with my refutation of your arguments. Therefore you choose to cut me off.
I'll take it as an admission that you were refuted.
Talking to you deeply is like talking to my dog. Its pointless. You'll do anything, make up anything, give yourself countless excuses, just to win an argument. I can't be around somebody that subjective.
Nevertheless, the record stands. You were unable to defend your argument. When I posed critical questions about your unstated assumptions, you just ran away.

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Message 175 of 178 (340425)
08-16-2006 1:44 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by Hyroglyphx
08-16-2006 12:40 AM


Re: Some whys and why nots
This thread was meant to be one of pure metaphysics and philosophy.
The argument depended on causation, which why it leads into empirical science.

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