Why is Israel getting away with these atrocities?

Nobody has made "gross and damning generalizations" about "entire groups of people" or "faiths."However, what if the g and d generalizations were TRUE? You couldn't care less, right? PC dictates that one may not make true statements about "entire groups of people" or "faiths." Gotta lie. Gotta make up sentimental untruths.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't think you really understand Hezbollah violating the treaty of Lebanon. If you get time listen to **Fox News** to get the skinny on the atrocities of the Hezbollah.The Hezbollah are murderers(suicide bombers) guilty of shedding the blood of innocent Israelie citizens. Herbollah's God is not the God of the bible but the prince of the air(a murder and a liar) that has the ear of the Hezobollah religious leaders ears. They believe the prince of the air (satan) is the God of Heaven, but that disagrees with the bible.Israel's is at war with the prince of the air (satan) however the victory is the Lords for he is Lord of Lord's and King of Kings. It appears it will not happen until the whole world goes through the tribulation and the prince of the air (satan) is bound upon the Lord Jesus return to rule from Jerusalem.Israel will never be uprooted by the prince of the air(Muslims God). The muslims are squatting on Gods lands that belong to Jacob (name changed to Israel). The Lords Portion, which is Jacob.When God divided the land of the nations his portion was given to Sarah through through Isaac then thru Jacobs seed. Deu 9:5, Deu 32:8-9God himself is responsible for the regathering of Israel its called prophecy. Isa 11:12 We have a God who keeps his word even though the world would disagree with Gods Word.The muslims (palestinians broke their word) they were to dismantle the Terrorists in Lebanon but they didn't. Perhaps we should just return Lebanon and Gaza to the Israelies, if the Palestians continue to teach children to kill Jews and to pretend that Israel does not exist as a nation.The squatters are not the Israelies biblically, but the children of Palestianians are taught that the Jews are squatting on Muslims land.The Muslims believe once they conquer land it becomes theirs forever, this is not biblical. The Muslims battle is with Gods Word saying this land belongs to the God of Jacob to whom is the Lords Portion.There will not be peace until the God of the Muslims ear (the prince of the air SATAN) is bound upon the Lord Jesus Return. Even so Lord Jesus come quickly.P.S. If you listen to what Muslim terrorist are calling for. They call for the complete destruction of Israel while Israel talks of living in peace with Lebanon.

islam is the cause of all terrorism is not a gross and damning generalization? it's not. you're the one making up untruths. is fundamentalist islam dangerous? yes. but that doesn't represent all of islam.

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Hezbollah is essentially an arm of the Iran army in other nations and Lebanon is where Iran's largest contingent is. There is a large number of Hezbollah in Iraq also including ElSadre and his thugs. It is so powerful in Lebanon with all it's missiles and other armament that this minority radical Sheih terrorist organization and their supporters are holding the whole nation of Lebanon hostage. They have lost their freedom to run a peaceful and free country. When this happens, yes, some will likely welcome the disarmament of Hezbollah even with the destruction that goes with it. Israel had to bomb the bridges, airport et al in order to stop the armament and war goods coming in from Syria and Iran. They are only bombing strategic targets and unlike Hezbollah do not intentionally hit civilian targets.The reason a number of nations are supportive of Israel in this is that Israel is essentially doing for the world what needs to be done to the terrorists, Hammas and Hezbollah.This war is essentially a war against Syria and Iran the world's most dangerous terrorist nations and Lebanon is the battlefield so far and could feasably escalate into Iran or Syria and even possibly beyond to some other nations.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Likely a good 80 to 90% of all active global terrorists are Muslims and most of the present global terrorism involves Muslims. All Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims today.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

You seem to be mistaking reality with some sort of dungeons and dragons game.I am sure there must be a forum somewhere for people who enjoy these games.This is the real world, there is no need to bring your hobby into it.Brian.

You just go on and on misrepresenting me. I've explicitly SAID most Muslims aren't terrorists. Therefore your claim that I've said damning things about PEOPLE is false. They aren't all terrorists because they aren't all fundamentalists.But Islam itself does promote terrorism if it is taken at face value, that is, as fundamentalists do. Islam meaning the historical religion, the written religion. "Fundamentalism" means taking the scriptures of the religion literally after all. That's what they do and it results in terrorism.But I understand, it's always easier just to blatantly accuse your opponent PC style of something nice and broad and damning like racism. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yes, but this simple truth just has to be denied by the PC brigade. Any lie rather than consider such an inconvenient fact. Even call those who tell you the truth about it racists and bigots. These days I'd guess it's more like 95% of terrorists are Muslims. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Fox has been interviewing people who are in the know from the military, from government on both sides of the isle, from Israeli officials and from others both sympathetic to the war effort and who are not. The thing most are not understanding about this is that Hezbollah and Hammas are essentially extended arms of Iran's Republic Guard and their military. They have a large highly armed contingent in Lebanon which as well as Hezbolla infiltrated in the Lebanese army itself so the majority Lebanese government's army is not strong enough to disarm Hezbollah.What else most are not aware of is that this war did not start from just a couple of soldiers being kidnapped. Hezbollah first fired missles to soften up for the raid into the Israeli contingent from which the soldiers were kidnapped. This was all timed by Iran to happen on the day Iran was to account to the UN to divert the attention away from their resposibilities.After Israel evacuated south Lebanon six years ago, a UN resolution was issued requiring the disarmament of Hezbollah in the evacuated south Lebanon, but the Lebanese army was unable to effect this and the UN failed to enforce it. Thus Hezbollah was free to prepare thousands of missiles with Iran technicians et al to prepare for and initiate this war. Thus the capture and kidnappings on two fronts, one in the south at Gaza and the other in the north at Lebanon. This war and the offensive action of Israel is clearly for the survival of the nation of Israel.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Your 95% is likely more accurate, Faith. I was trying to make sure I was within a safe perameter so as not to overstate.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Yeah, right Buz.Did they discuss the fact that Hezbollah came into existence to respond to Christian terrorism and the Christian massacre of Palestinians in a refugee camp? Did they point out that it was Israel that totally destabilized the Lebsnese government in the first place the last time they went camping among the cedars?Did they point out that Hamas is not now, nor has it ever been an arm of the Iranian military. They cooperate, and Hamas does recieve financing from Iran, but that was only arranged after the US and other western nations went back on agreements of finance for the Palestinian Authority.As for the timing of the attack, certainly it was timed to draw attention away from Iran's issues as pointed out way back in this thread. That is not really news and should have been obvious from the moment it happened. But the attacks from Lebanon are also not a threat to Israels existence or sovereignty. Let's not blow this out of proportions. In addition, Israel was one of the nations that opposed the UN placing an occupying force in Southern Lebanon.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

just the honest ones, huh? so does judaism. need i remind you again that in the bible, god commands genocide? and one of the groups of people joshua and co. are supposed to drive out are the palestinians. now, i know you'd like to say these aren't the same people -- but taken at face value, palushtim are palushtim. i think that is a gross over-simplification of the situation. when people looked at the curse on noah's son ham as a justification of slavery in this country, was genesis resulting in slavery? when people looked at matthew or john as a justification of killing jews, was john resulting in the holocaust?people proof-text. they start with their assumptions, and find stuff in their religion that they think justifies it. fundamentalists in the christian camp do it all the time with a variety of ideas. these ideas do not come from the text, but from the reader. and for any idea being proof-texted, you can generally find another verse that rules it out. why should it be different with islam?i'm aware that some parts of islam preach hatred, but evidently so do parts of christianity -- and major portions of christianity certainly have in the past, as maybe a major portion of islam does now. certain fundamentalist groups still continue to justify outright racism with christianity, like aryan nation, or rather, "the church of jesus christ, christian" as they formally call themselves. does the gospel cause this group to kill jews and blacks? because you have a very long history here of trying to tear down and attack islam at any cost. not just the fundamentalists, but islam in general. and it never comes across as enlightened discussion, faith. it comes across as venomous and hateful.and hate is hate.

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the way i understand is that hezbollah was inspired by the iranian revolution, and has recieved donations and weapons from iran. that doesn't make them "an arm of the iran army." like hamas holds palestine hostage? the way i understand it, they were democratically elected. partially to boot israel out. so, you're in support of deposing democratically elected leaders if they invade foreign countries without good justification? i still don't think anyone welcomes being bombed. this sounds like pure republican propaganda -- "they welcome us with open arms" while we shoot at them. how welcome are we in iraq right now? ok. you're aware that most of the world does not consider hamas and hezbollah to be terrorist organizations? only israel and the us. even the uk doesn't, though they don't support the "terrorist activities" they sponsor. certainly, the rest of the arab world supports hamas and hezbollah -- israel might be looking at a BIG war here. yes, that's what we're worried about.

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ok, probably true.

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Canaanites, Arach. Canaanites and amorites. It wasn't called Palestine in those days. And the Palestinians you find in the west bank are mostly arab, which was not among the canaanites or amorites that Joshua fought in the war. If modern day palestinians (The word palestine is connected to the Philistines)are somewhat related to the ancient peoples of canaan, then that as yet to be determined. I wont rule it out, but they are arab peoples. The Palestinians today are no doubt the descendants of arab conquerors that took the Holy Land in 641 AD (See "The Holy Land: Guide to the Archeological sites and Historical Monuments" By F. Bourbon and E. Lavagno, page 12.)When it coems to this crisis in the Middle East, the escalation and tension makes me think I am about to experience what Jason Robards did in The Day After.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4