Why is Israel getting away with these atrocities?

yes. or rather, does a group have the right to seceed? i would say yes, as well. compromise on both sides, and aid from israel to palestine. love your neighbors. if palestine is granted some of their demands, and is willing to let go of others, and israel helps to make it a nicer place to live, we would quickly see this war disappear.

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And if we keep attacking them and contributing to the PROBLEM that will happen.But it will be as much the fault of faulty US policy as anything else.

The daily new Anyone. History, i.e. 1967 war.3. In past wars, Russia and Turkey have been supportive to the Arab aggressors, Russia supplying their planes and tanks, et al.And your point is? When was Turkey a supporter of Arab Aggressors? Point? Go figure. Turkey = 1967 war.And your point is? Go figure. It is my point.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

Our defense of Israel is cheap in light of the value of having an ally in such a strategic location. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

You must read some strange news sources. LOL. IIRC there is a Palestine Authority but no Nation of Palestine or internationally recognized borders.The question who would they go to war with. "Anyone" as an answer is, well, silly.And so your evidence for Jordan threatening Israel is based on 1967 and ignores the treaties with Jordan since then? Yeah, right. LOLAnd again you look at 1967? And claim that Turkey was one of the Nations involved in the Six day War? Are you sure of that or is that just another of your assertions? You do know that in 1967 Turkey was a US ally don't you?Do you just make these things up on the fly?AbE:Don't you know that both Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, that both regularly shut down protests against Israel or the US, that Jordan and Israel are involved in many joint projects including a Dead Sea Canal, that Jordan has cooperated with Israel in eliminating Palistinian threats on the West Bank, that Jordan expelled Hamas from their borders and on and on, or do you know all that and just ignore it?Edited by jar, : add comment.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Actually no, this is just sentimental moral posturing, prissy formulaic political correctness, slapping on a false moral equivalence that makes it impossible to face reality. The very essence of insanity I think.

The "Palestinians" never had such a "feeling" until Israel came along.

A Palestinian state has been offered and offered and offered and they have refused. They've even pretty much said it's because they don't want Israel to exist at all.How do you determine the legalities and moralities when one of the parties will simply not compromise because they want the other party dead?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

again, i think it is you who is unable or unwilling to face reality. nobody thinks suicide bombing is ok, or excusable. but that's not the whole picture of what is going on in israel. and understanding the factors that motivate people to blow themselves up on crowded buses is not "politically correct" or "moral equivalence." it's the first step in fixing things.oh, that's right. i forgot. the only good arab is a dead arab. that's the only way to stop the violence, isn't it? more violence.both sides have to be party to the solution. both sides have to compromise. not just one.

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i think you fail to see the irony of this statement, and its logical conclusions.

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Or perhaps they would like the land that was promised to them returned. Afterall, Great Britain promised the same hunk of land to the Arabs, the Jews and the International Community. Which one of those mutually exclusive commitments has the most legal support?The issue of establishing a Palestinian nation will come down to borders, and there, Israel has been like the British. They have yet to do anything concrete (excluding of course the concrete walls and barriers they build) and have not moved the settelers off the land that supposedly the Israelis plan on giving to Palestine.You are familar I am sure with the Hussein-McMahon Correspondence, are you not?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

No irony. Just like a child who has no real interest in a particular toy until some other child has it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

i've heard from my israeli friends that driving in israel is much more hazardous than it is here. nobody stops to let anybody in. and if they do, the other person doesn't take the opportunity. if you're in line at the grocery store, and a crippled old lady comes up behind you, and you offer to let her go ahead, she won't take it.nobody gives anything away for free, and if they do, they're just trying to trick you. and so nobody takes anything, or does anything, just because someone else told them to -- nobody wants to be anybody else's fool.now look at how palestinians reacted when israel gave them gaza:"we don't want it."palestinians simply will not take a palestinian state set up by israel. that's hardly their own state -- it's israel part two. and they're not gonna take their own land just because israel said so. it's hard to understand this sort of thing, if you don't understand the cultural information above.i don't think the average palestinian wants all jews dead. i don't think a majority even wants that, even if they did elect hamas. this crap you're pulling about one party being nothing but good and the other being nothing but bad is far from addressing the reality of the situation. it reads like anti-islamic zionist rhetoric.Edited by arachnophilia, : removed bit that was a little too close to a flame. thought better of it

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well, yes. but it was theirs first, wasn't it?

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Oh, you want to argue it was theirs first and oepn that whole can of worms? No end to THAT argument.But as a matter of fact NOBODY owned it for centuries, actually all the way back to the fall of Jerusalem, or all the way back to before the Babylonian exile if you like. Since then it has always been occupied and governed by some empire or other. But the Jews certainly had claim to it if anybody did in all that time, thanks to their ancient history there. After that it had no national identity at all until Israel became a state. And those who lived on it before the Jews started building Israel belonged to a whole variety of separate tribes and affiliations. They did not constitute a tribal or ethnic or political entity of any sort at all.