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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But where in any of your examples is there signes of exaggeration?
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This exaggerated view of oneself and of life in general might be advantageous in a practical sense--say in the business world--but it's no good philosophically. One has a skewed vision of oneself and of life. But again, unless you can show there is any exaggeration or that even if there is exaggeration why it is bad philosophically, what is the point? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The difference between the practical and the philosophical is that the former is concerned with everyday practical results and the latter has to do with one's overall worldview. Huh? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As I said before, constant robust awe or enthusiasm for the wonder of life is an exaggeration. Saying that one has an exemplary moral character is an exaggeration. Yes, you have made that claim many times, but have never explained or justified it. I am constantly in awe at the depth of knowledge of many members here at EvC. How is that an exaggeration? I am constantly in awe of the universe around me. Just the other evening we had a rain shower, an unusual event down here, and suddenly thousands of little snails showed up. It was awesome. Where did they come from? Is that exaggeration? Why is saying that you have an exemplary moral character an exaggeration? All it means is that it is a character that could be emulated. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Constantly? No rest for the weary from this pretence? What pretence? And how can being constantly surprised weary one? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It's psychologically impossible to be "constantly surprised." Surprise depends on rarity of occurrence--at least the kind of "surprise" you are talking about. So you say. But I guess my experience proves you wrong. There is not a single day where I am not really surprised by something, that I do not find something of wonder that carries me on for days, sometimes for years of enjoyment. For example...
How can that not surprise one and provide yet more confirmation of the wonder of nature? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A few weeks ago I went with my wife to the VA hospital locally (she was signing up for benefits). While she was filling out paperwork, I wandered around. I happened to go out this door into a sort of patio, and there I saw a lot of old men. Many of them were missing limbs. They didn't look like they had much money either. Shabbily dressed. Veterans of some war or other. It was terrible. My heart went out to them. What an unbelievable opportunity you missed. I pity you. Not too long ago I went to visit my great aunt, who was well over 100 years old, and living in a nursing home. When I got there she had fallen asleep and I turned to leave. On the way down the hall I passed several folk in wheelchairs and as is my custom said, "Hi" to them. Nothing more, just look them in the eye and a smile. One old gentleman looked up at me and said, "You know, I was there." Needless to say, that stopped me in my tracks. "No," I replied, "I didn't. What was it like?" I spent over an hour talking to him about life on the border around the turn of the century. It was awsome and wondrous. Edited by jar, : fix subtitle Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Is there a place to make nominations for the most inane topic of the month? Would elevating the value of this thread to inane be considered boasting? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Flowers are the way the earth laughs. Retch. We need to start a very exclusive club for those very few who understand what's wrong with that kind of sentiment. Thank you Faith. It was part of my present to my Mom the Christmas before she died. That and a little sprinkler head shaped like a froggie. It sits on a garden called Kitty's (everyone called her Kitty) Patch which is filled with all the flowers she loved so much. Kitty was one of those folk that was in constant awe of the world. She raised a whole passle of kids, and fed and clothed them, saw to their education, loved her garden and birds and stray kittens and went to the pound to walk the doggies and brought them treats and brought way too many of them home and made ceramics and taught us about kilns and how to scoop up tadpoles and all about fuzzy ants and that white faced bees don't sting and how to pick blackberries without getting caught on the thorns and how the hairs on a kittens tongue are backwards and how mice scurry across the floor and where the owls hid in the barn and that black snakes are your friends and the one that slithered through the ceiling of the old fieldstone house and sometimes peered down at us from the little hole in the corner kept the mice out of the house and how flying squirrels flew and bats too and that snow angels were mandatory and that love hid under rocks at the edge of the pond where the native trout slept. Yes, I'm sure you are right. "Flowers are the way the earth laughs. Retch." quoth the Faith. Yes, you should start a very exclusive club for those who are unable to see the wonder around them and in life. Edited by jar, : add requisite spallin arrers Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm sorry. I just dislike sentimentality. It's phony. Sometimes it's mere inarticulateness though, not always phoniness. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings about it. I would never say this to anyone normally. It just has to be said on a thread like this which is ABOUT such things and in which you are all beating up Robin because of his perfectly sensible feelings and arguments. Don't be sorry, please, start your club. And all of those who feel like you can get together and commiserate (according to the dictionary that means To feel or express sympathy: commiserated over their failure. Start your club and you and robin and iano can meet and weep and whine and revel in your misery. For the rest of us, I give:
Yes, by all means, do not be sorry. Start your club. The rest of us will enjoy the rescue of Tivo in the Great Storm and how two days later he was big and fluffy and ran off to join the other ground squirrels and has a burrow on the other side of the driveway and when we sit out on the porch he comes up and sits at the entrance and sometimes runs across and over our feet and how this year he brought three of the babies and taught them how to search out seed in the gardens and how when the Owls were nesting in the palm across the road he served as guardian and watch squirrel and not one of those living in his burrow became baby owl food and how wilma and karl (the Great Horned Owls that lived in the palm) had to go to a far off field to find food for their chicks and when karl and wilma taught their hatchlings to hunt they did it in the field across the road and not in Tivo's territory.
keep responding and I will tell the tale of harold and his harem. Edited by jar, : remove extra LF Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There's nothing sentimental and phony about rescuing animals and caring for animals. But there sure is about making ooing and ahing over baby birds into the meaning of life, and there sure is about saying that flowers are how the earth laughs. Yik. Almost ruins the beauty of flowers and the charm of baby birds. It's about proportion. Ah Yes, ooing and ahing over baby birds into the meaning of life is certainly phony. The meaning of life is that you are a damned sinner with going to hell stamped on your forehead and not the beauty and wonder of baby birds. Yeah, right.
Yes Faith, by all means start your club. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nah, fraid not. The first is just a pic somebody sent to me while the next two were from in the Everglades.
Still, glad you enjoyed them. Ain't the world just wondrous and awesome? Sorry but if you agree with that statement you may not be eligible for memebership in Faith's Club.
Faith writes: There's nothing sentimental and phony about rescuing animals and caring for animals. But there sure is about making ooing and ahing over baby birds into the meaning of life, and there sure is about saying that flowers are how the earth laughs. Yik. Almost ruins the beauty of flowers and the charm of baby birds. It's about proportion. You probably shouldn't oh or ah over things like:
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, you might say that. It would be damned hard though for you to show where it is applicable to anything I said. LOL
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