Hi 2ice_baked_taters,
I'll just respond to the sliver of your post that was on-topic:
2ice_baked_taters writes:
Those that believe in ID or creationism do so for reasons that have nothing to do with science.
Yes, we know. That's why the YEC arguments that are enjoying a mild rebound here at the moment have been such a puzzle to science-minded folk for decades. While it might be true that creationists accept creationism for reasons having nothing to do with science, they do not themselves believe this. YEC's bring their arguments here and to boards of education where it is argued that their views
*are* science. Clearly they don't believe creationism does not have a scientific foundation. Which brings us to your next point:
Even though you are aware of this and know that no matter what you say it will not change thier view, you still foolishly persist.
You'll often hear evolutionists clarify that they are presenting an argument not because they believe it will convince the other person, but because they believe it is important for the rest of the audience who, it is assumed, include some not so wedded to the creationist viewpoint. They feel this way because an informed public is science's best weapon in the battle against frippery, pseudo-science and true nonsense.
We evolutionists are not really such a bad bunch. If creationists would stop interfering in science education the debate would cease.
--Percy