A statement of my disbeliefs

I thought that it may be interesting for those who don't believe in the christian god to outline what their views are on the existance of God or Gods.ME: The more I experience and the more I read on those forums and other places, the more I am convinced that the God of the christians and the muslims is a deadend - a construction of the human mind. That does not mean that I have entirely discounted the idea of "God" but rather I have found those particular franchises to be wanting.It could be that I discover God in the Torah or some other place, who knows?So basically - God could exist but I currently don't see anything to convince me at present.

In regards to the forums I meant that what is discussed here just reinforces my own views on religion.i'm sorry Riverrat - your christian god is just a bust for me. I'm not really that interested in exploring that avenue any further - it's a waste of resources.

Buzz - I don't need to know everything - I don't know everything about scientology but I know enought to decide it's bunk.In the same way I don't feel that further consideration of the christian reglion is worth the time. Remember althought it's got priority in your life, it has no special merits for some of us.

In a simpson's Episode - Lisa has a pen-pal in South America, her country is taken over by General Krull.

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I'm sorry phatboy, but I do not need to tone it down, as I have not toned it up. Some people like General Krull here need to now the hard facts.

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The only hard fact is that you have a belief that many of us have decided to discount. As long as we don't attack you for that faith, you have to accept that many of us have no further time or wish to explore the christian faith.This was a thread for the "atheists*" to outline their viewpoints - it is not acceptable for you to be preaching here. If you want to preach the word of your christian god - set up your own thread and anyone who is interested can discuss it with you there.* for want of a better term - really the people on here have been a mix of various things.This message has been edited by General Krull, 26-Apr-2005 07:28 AM

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I noticed thaat you have only mentioned "Christians and Muslims", why? What about Jews, Hindus, or else? Why you have singled out two groups. Obviously you are denying Christian God and Muslim God, while acknowledging the God of others?

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Where am I acknowledging other gods? I have never read the religion works of Jews,Hindus or others and thus cannot comment on their claims. It's like asking to judge a cake I've never tasted.

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Interesting, show me the proof of God existance in Torah (your version) and we will take it from there? Because I believe I can prove otherwise to you, not that I believe that.

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I have never read the torah, it's an examplar.This message has been edited by General Krull, 27-Apr-2005 12:42 PM

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It is interesting to observe that almost all posts in this thread are off topic and off target. But when Christians' tried to confront "General Krull" for his prejudicial assertion, he is dodging the issue and rudely telling them this is an atheist thread etcetera etcetera.

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How can it be prejudice to say that I've examined the christian religion and found it to be wanting and from the discussions I've had with muslims, the same would seem to apply to that?Where's the prejudice?

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This only proves to me that in this forum in the presence of moderators certain belief (atheist) can assault any faith recklessly without proving their claims

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Prove what? it's my own viewpoint? what am i suppose to be proving ? I'm not claiming you will all non-burn in non-existance for notime if you don't all become non-believers today!

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On the other hand, General Krull has the gall to start a thread about religion using complete distortion and /or disinformation about Islaam. That proves nothing but the absolute ignorance of GK on the subject matter.

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And in that thread I offered my apologies for my mistake.This message has been edited by General Krull, 27-Apr-2005 01:11 PM

All sounds very reasonable to me.

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May I also ask: why do some people want to eliminate the concept of God from existence?

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Dunno - as long as people don't try and force me to join in - I can't see it any of my business what people believe in.

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science is disproving atheism

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if you can provide us with a peer-reviewed paper to back this statement I (and I suspect many many others) would be very surprised.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 25-May-2005 12:24 PM

All of the books you mentioned have been discussed and destroyed (the strobel one was the most recent).Now can you answer the actual question?.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 25-May-2005 03:38 PM

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How haven't i answered your question?

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if you can provide us with a peer-reviewedpaper to back this statementThere are a number of threads on each of the books you mention, the most recent Strobel one seems to be http://EvC Forum: A Case for a creator -->EvC Forum: A Case for a creator(but I see you've found it).You may also want to check:http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/articles/strobel_cfac.htmThis message has been edited by Charles Knight, 25-May-2005 07:05 PM

This is a nice dodge. I take it you think that Scientist=evolutionist?Look I can't be bothered to dance around with you for 97 posts - can you provide any peer-reviewed evidence that science disproves the atheist postion or not?If not - please don't waste my time - I've seen nothing in your posts I've not seen 1000 times before. I half expecting you to scream "it's a theory not a fact!!!" next.Piss in the pot or get off it.In fact the more I think about it - none of this has anything to do with this thread. What don't you start your own and people can debate you there?This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 26-May-2005 01:42 PM