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Topic: Bush Is Back (part 2)!
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 9 of 164 (157357)
11-08-2004 3:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 2 by Verzem
11-08-2004 2:41 PM
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Could it be that bush thought that if we see more body bags coming home, he might not be elected to a second term?
We aren't allowed to see the body bags as it is. From the Washington Post:
Curtains Ordered for Media Coverage of Returning Coffins By Dana Milbank Tuesday, October 21, 2003; Page A23 Since the end of the Vietnam War, presidents have worried that their military actions would lose support once the public glimpsed the remains of U.S. soldiers arriving at air bases in flag-draped caskets. To this problem, the Bush administration has found a simple solution: It has ended the public dissemination of such images by banning news coverage and photography of dead soldiers' homecomings on all military bases.
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Concession speech from 3rd party candidate (humor)
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Not true that they had ties to Al Quadia? What do you call Iraqi ministers pledging alegiance to Al Quadia?
When did they do this? Please include a reference to a reliable source, please.
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: No Clinton was not the only one
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We wouldn't be over streched now though, if it wasn't for clinton and his budget cuts.
Tell me, JF, which recent president has increased spending astronomically while also cutting taxes, resulting in an enormous budget deficit? Now tell me which recent president has balanced the budget?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 88 of 164 (166017)
12-07-2004 8:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 87 by jar
12-07-2004 7:33 PM
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Re: Military Spending
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So again, why do YOU think the allies won WWII?
I'll take a stab... ENIGMA code breakers?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Military Spending
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Even if I had used this word to defame someone, (I mainly used it because it was shorter than comunist [and a lot easier to spell])you did just about the same thing by classifying me as a fundamentalist Christian.
If I ofended anyone, I am sorry
If you think there is any doubt about the offensiveness of the term, why don't you walk up to a random American of Asian descent and call him or her a "gook" and see what happens. Do you think that he or she will say, "Hey, I'm not a Communist!"?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Military Spending
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please see previous, first, american chinese citizans are americans,
Yeah, so? If the term wasn't an offensive racist term, they would say "Hey, I'm not a Communist", right?
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and secondly, gook is used refer to military and leaders of china, again once more, not it's people
Uh, no, it's used to refer to all East Asian people, not just Chinese, and not just leaders or military people. Did you read the dictionary definition that holmes provided? I'll find one, hold on...
gook- Used as a disparaging term for a person of East Asian birth or descent. If you didn't know that was the definition,. now you do. It's offensive, it's racist, and it is not meant to be used in polite company.
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Military Spending
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fine if your so offended by it, I won't use it again
Thanks. I would hope that you come to understand that denigrating and dehumanizing other groups is a base and immoral path to follow when thinking about world affairs.
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Military Spending
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sure, but in the middle east, at least in a lot of places, if your not muslim, they kill/imprision you
Really? Where are those places?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Message 152 of 164 (167173)
12-11-2004 12:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 151 by NosyNed
12-10-2004 5:45 PM
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Re: Illegal to be a Christian
I did a bit of quick googling and it does seem to be that you can be arrested for openly being Christian in Saudi Arabia, and people have been imprisoned. Didn't read about any executions, though. I would ask Jesus Freak, though, to explain why our government doesn't invade Saudi Arabia because of it's persecution of it's people?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Illegal to be a Christian
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Because as wrong as it may be, saudia arabia is our allie, and they have done some favors for us over the years. (Such as letting us base our troops there in 91, though recently they have been screwing us over)
Iraq was our ally when they were at war with Iran, but we invaded them anyway. Remember this famous photo?:
Oh, and we have the kind of tolerant relationship with Saudi Arabia that we do BECAUSE OF THE OIL. BECAUSE OF THE OIL. BECAUSE OF THE OIL.
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About them exacuting the Christians, i doubt if they do it OFFICALLY, but they do support terrorist cells. There is another country in africa also that is split in half by religion, and the richer muslims in the northern half regualy come down and raid the southern half filled with Christians.
Right. So why don't we invade them? Why did we invade Iraq?
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Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Illegal to be a Christian
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We didn't go into Iraq because of religous laws, and you are right, Iraq was not an extreamist islam country.
Correct.
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Iraq supported those terrorists, but were not that themselves.
They did? They supported the 9/11 terrorists? How? I thought that the 9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis, and I thought that the attack was orchestrated by Osama bin Laden with the aid of the Taliban in Afghanistan. Am I (and the 9/11 Congressional Commission) wrong?
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What we stopped was the torturing of olimpic teams if they diddn't get a meddal. What we stopped was the cutting of Iraqi's ears if they didn't become bathist.
Yeah. 100,000+ dead Iraqi civilians can't be tortured, that's for sure. So, when are we going to be invading all of those African countries to stop the genocide of MILLIONS of people by those dictators?
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