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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, Ashcroft has two possible goals, the Court and a 2008 run for President.
By the way, Jerry Falwell annouced today the rebirth of the Moral Majority to specifically work towards a Fundamentalist President for 2008. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Gotta jump in here.
There is also the corrupt businesses (like the boeing scandle) that prevent us from getting things (like tankers) that we really need, and then we have to waste a bunch of money on an investigation. The allies won WWII because...? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
JF
I really was hoping you'd have some answers other than simply repeating the question. IMHO it's important because it will eventually resolve to the question of budget, funding and policy regarding National Defense. I'm not going to give my answer right now. Hopefully you'll work on the question. I can say that Lam's answer has nothing to do with the question. So again, why do YOU think the allies won WWII? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
They helped but afterall there were equally good code breakers on the other sides as well.
Let's see what JF comes up with and we'll go from there. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That's a good point too but it doesn't look like the allies had more support than the Japanese and they were certainly more fanatical in their support.
Let's see what else comes up. Great ideas so far but I don't think they were the biggest reasons. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Personally I've always thought the main reason was the overwhelming industrial capacity of the United States compared to everbody else. Absolutely. The US could build boats faster than the Japanese, Italians and Germans could sink them. The US could build planes faster than the Axis could shoot them down, build more tanks, guns, trucks, trains, helmets, rifles, cannon, mortars faster than anyone else in the world. And why could we do that? For one thing we had the raw materials, and the industrial base for all of that. We also had the intellectual resources needed for the effort. No other nation had such a base. Now back towards the comment that started all this.
There is also the corrupt businesses (like the boeing scandle) that prevent us from getting things (like tankers) that we really need, and then we have to waste a bunch of money on an investigation. Let's look at the Boeing scandal or deal. The US was looking for some air refueling tankers. The potential suppliers were Boeing and AirBus. IMHO, even considering AirBus was tantamount to treason. The US, particularly under Reagan, Bush and Bush have been actively outsourcing some of the very basic industries, steel, aircraft, boat building, design, rocketry. We even outsourced the wing design for the latest Boeing plane, the single most important feature in any aircraft and until now, the most closely guarded secret in aircraft. If there were another major war, would the US be in any position to fight it? So, is the issue one of coruption or total incompetance bordering on treason of our Presidents? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
For those of us who don't live in the last best hope of theocracy (paranoid - moi ?) could you confirm you're talking about the Darleen Druyun case ? Yeah, that's the one. It gets hard to keep all the scandals in order. Not quite as bad as 1939 when Boeing agreed to design an intercontinental bomber for the Japanese as long as the work was not done on their property, if say, a motel room was used instead.
Doh ! I just read through your post again in a bit more depth and realised what (I think) you're getting at. You're pointing out that in this era of globalization the industrial base of the US is being shipped abroad (both manufacturing and R&D) - which may be great for the bottom line of corporations (and the renumeration of their executives) but is no way to fight a big war. Right on. And it applies whether we are talking about a shooting war, cold war or economic one.
If this is what your view is then I have to agree with you, but I still stand by my earlier comments. In the short to medium term I can't see anyone being able to stand to up to your military. In the longer term, say a decade or more, I think you're right - but with a 'but'. The 'but' is the nuclear arsenals of the bigger countries in the world. China is the obvious country which you could forsee the US having a major war with where the lack of a manufacturing base might hurt you, but I still think the threat of MAD is going to stop such a war happening. The problem is twofold IMHO. First, is the possibility of a Nation State conflict that begins with smaller nations (anyone remember what happened in Sarajevo, or the tension that developed over two little islands, Quemoy and Matsu). There is a high probability of conflict between India/Pakistan, North/South Korea, conflict over the resources in Manchuria or Siberia (often refered to as the Northern Territories), the Sprateleys, Senkaku, the Kuriles. Second is the rise of China that will peak around 2020. By then China will have a blue water navy, subs that are the equal of ours, and long range missles. As to MAD, that base is nowhere near what it was. In addition, with the land mass of China and the population potential, as well as the difference in attitude about losses, would MAD apply when speaking of China? Or India? Or Pakistan? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
God is it good to find someone who has actually looked beyond the Hollywood representations of these issues.
Thank you sir. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The latest threat to the US and Great Britain is the sale of the IBM PC division to a Chinese company. It includes the right to sell the PCs under the IBM name for 5 years. Those PCs will end up in US businesses and governments, but how much will we or anyoneelse know about what is happening below the surface?
We are rapidly turning over control of technology, communications (both the undersea lines and satellite transmissions) to other nations. How long can we continue to outsource the basic infrastructure that supports any Nation State? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, the Chinese buyer is the fourth largest manufacturer of PCs world-wide. It also looks to be yet another shell company owned by the Chinese Army.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Two fronts. Remember the Pacific and Asia.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Here too, but Fundamentalist christians are exempt from good taste. They are allowed to denigrate any of the unwashed infidels. They are also excused for not having the sense of a red brick, from being able to read or understand the Bible, from having any knowledge of Christianity, History, Economics, Politics or Honesty.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It was a derogitory term for Asains, Chinese, Korean, Southeast Asian. It had nothing to do with any poltical system and goes back atleast to the 1700's. It's certainly not something that would ever be used in polite company.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, you lean to the LEFT.
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