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Author Topic:   I want one good reason that being gay is ok
crashfrog
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Message 12 of 510 (121332)
07-02-2004 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
07-02-2004 7:52 AM


#3 "I was born this way." I refuse to believe this one also.
#4 Gay people have better relationships than straight and can make better parents. I absolutly refuse to believe this one
How do either of these constitute rebuttals to the arguments? I don't understand why you refusing to believe an argument when the evidence is laid out before you is anything but an example of your own lazy thinking. It's hardly a refutation to the arguments.
Why should any of us give a damn what you will or won't believe?
You want one good reason why having gay sex is ok? Because some people are gay, having gay sex makes them feel good, and it doesn't hurt any of the rest of us one single bit for them to do so.

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crashfrog
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Message 51 of 510 (121426)
07-03-2004 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by riVeRraT
07-03-2004 12:23 AM


You haven't answered the question either, give me a reason I should accept it as being ok.
Because it doesn't harm you or anybody you know, and insofar as it harms them (which is not greatly), they're ok with it.

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crashfrog
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Message 55 of 510 (121431)
07-03-2004 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by riVeRraT
07-03-2004 12:24 AM


Then why is it illegal to commit suicide?
I don't think it's even illegal to attempt it. When was the last time you heard about someone being charged for it? My brother in law made the attempt but they didn't charge him with anything.
Oh, yeah, I mean of course the police will try to stop you; that's what they do, protect people from fatal injury and harm.
But you don't see the police make you stop smoking, do you? Except in places where other people have to breathe it, of course. After all you didn't ask them. But it's legal to smoke, even though the consequences are way worse than two women going down on each other.

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crashfrog
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Message 63 of 510 (121439)
07-03-2004 12:38 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by riVeRraT
07-03-2004 12:34 AM


It doesn't hurt my mother or father if I commit suicide does it?
Does it hurt your parents if you have gay sex and they don't know? Hell, I don't even tell my parents about my straight sex.
If I smoke pot, it doesn't hurt anyone else, provided I grow it myself and not buy it through a drug ring, where people can die for drugs.
Smoke up. I won't stop you. Marijuana is a self-correcting problem, anyway.

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crashfrog
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Message 85 of 510 (121467)
07-03-2004 12:56 AM
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07-03-2004 12:51 AM


Self-correcting in what way?
It's harmful to male fertility if overused.
Morover, it's not a drug commonly associated with violent tendancies, now is it?

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crashfrog
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Message 90 of 510 (121476)
07-03-2004 1:01 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by riVeRraT
07-03-2004 12:44 AM


Whos to say it doesn't.
Statistics? Common sense? How could your parents be hurt in anyway by something they don't know you're doing and doesn't affect them?
See, this is homophobia. The fear that gay people having sex out there, somewhere could somehow harm you. You have an irrational fear of gay sex because you're convinced that two other people having it somewhere could harm you, even though it won't.
You want your kids doing it(smoking pot)?
I'd rather they smoked a little pot than even flirt with the Christian worldview, for fear they'd turn out like you.
I know people that have changed, and not comitted suicide.
There's a difference between not having gay sex and not wanting to have gay sex.

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crashfrog
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Message 106 of 510 (121503)
07-03-2004 1:32 AM
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07-03-2004 1:07 AM


Actually there is no evidence that this is true.
Really? That's good to know. Guess I can dust off ol' Smokey McPipe now.

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crashfrog
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Message 109 of 510 (121506)
07-03-2004 1:40 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by riVeRraT
07-03-2004 1:37 AM


It has to be, to deny the rights of benificiaries of insurance policies.
It doesn't always, though. Any why should it? Suicide is generally indicative of a mental disorder. Why wouldn't you recieve survivorship benefits if the death was caused by a physiological condition?
The reason that we try to stop people from commiting suicide is that, in most cases, the person has a mental disorder and therefore, can't consent to suicide.

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crashfrog
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Message 179 of 510 (122094)
07-05-2004 10:28 AM


RR,
I hate bowling. Can you give me one reason why it's ok?
Of course, I don't hate bowlers, just the act of bowling.

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crashfrog
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Message 181 of 510 (122096)
07-05-2004 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by riVeRraT
07-05-2004 10:12 AM


Never mind...
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crashfrog
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Message 184 of 510 (122101)
07-05-2004 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by riVeRraT
07-05-2004 10:31 AM


I can give you lots of reasons why its ok.
So do so. Give me one good reason why I should allow people to bowl, or to allow bowling alleys in my community.

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crashfrog
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Message 191 of 510 (122115)
07-05-2004 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by riVeRraT
07-05-2004 10:33 AM


No, because it is off-topic.
No, it's very much on-topic, because there's no reason you can give for why bowling is ok that you haven't already rejected for why being gay is ok.
Its a simple question, and no-one has given me a simple straight up answer why.
It's ok for the same reason it's ok for people to bowl. When you can tell me what that reason is, you'll have your answer. Assuming that you were actually interested in an answer.

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crashfrog
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Message 222 of 510 (122590)
07-07-2004 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by riVeRraT
07-07-2004 7:06 AM


That would make him "like, the verb" God,
Take it from a grammarian - that's using "like" as a conjunction, not as a verb.
Verb: "Rrhain likes God."
Conjunction: "Rrhain is like a God."
You are incorrect when you say that Rrhain is using "like" as a verb.

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crashfrog
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Message 224 of 510 (122592)
07-07-2004 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by riVeRraT
07-07-2004 7:13 AM


Whats your reason for thinking its ok?
For the same reason bowling is ok. When you can answer that, you'll know why being gay is ok.

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crashfrog
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Message 227 of 510 (122595)
07-07-2004 7:17 AM
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07-07-2004 7:12 AM


That is off-topic, and I see no need to do that.
Answering your title question is off-topic? How can that be?
That's my answer. Being gay is ok for the exact same reason bowling is ok. When you can tell me why bowling is ok, then you'll know the reason being gay is ok.
You're the one running from the answer to a question you asked, not me. I can't for the life of me figure out why you're running from something you asked for.

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