I want one good reason that being gay is ok

There is clearly no need to address points 1 - 4 since other people have done a fine job already. Here is my reason why being gay is OK, and this really applies to almost anything I do."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."Thomas JeffersonThis statement doesn't only apply to statements about god(s), it applies to almost all human activity. My personal moral code states that as long as what I do doesn't injure you in some way it is none of your business what I do. Hence almost everything I do is OK. This is why I think vice crimes are a waste of government money and resources. If you don't want to pay for sex then don't but what business is it of yours if I do? I personally don't care for alcohol but does that mean I should restrict your right to have it? If I want to have sex with people of the same gender then I think a better questions are "Why should you care?" and more importantly "Why should you be involved?"

I don't think that there is any data to support assertions 1 - 8. Just off the top of my head I can give you this counter argument: The Roman empire was tolerant of gays and it lasted 800 years, we would be lucky to do so well.

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It's when they come out demanding stuff and displaying their perverted lifestyle to normal folks that becomes disgraceful and repulsive.

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Do you mean demanding things like equal treatment under the law? How disgraceful and repulsive!

Do you have testimony from these clergymen or are you basing this on your false statement that gays molest more children? Maybe I'm just dense but I don't see how the fact that the government has been discriminating against gays for 200 years in any way means it should continue to do so. Children already grow up with same sex parents, they just aren't married. I don't think you can back this up with any hard data. Christians are represented in the prison population in the same proportion as they are represented in the general population. As a side note: I wouldn't hire someone from Bob Jones University. Not so nuts as you might think. Since it happens in nature it is clearly natural. You can't procreate with same gender sex but there is nothing unnatural about it. If it were unnatural you couldn't do it. I do agree with that. And I would also agree that neither is wrong. Just because you don't want to believe that it was normal for them doesn't mean it wasn't.All of these points aside it still doesn't change the fact that you have no more right to tell me what soap to use in the bathroom than who consents to share my bed. If you are worried about what your god might think just keep in mind that when you stand before him at your death he will _NOT_ ask you "What was Bob doing?"

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thanks.

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You are very welcome.The argument is so simple it is hard to understand why people don't get it.

My answer was clear and I wasn't comparing it to something else. I was lumping many activities into one unified moral code. You could have asked about just about anything and I would have given you the same answer.As far as suicide is concerned it shouldn't be illegal. In fact Oregon has passed legislation to make it legal and in spite of the justice departments best efforts it has withstood judicial scrutiny. Of course Dr. Kevorkian is still in jail but that is a different story.

You are partially correct. Smoking pot doesn't hurt anyone (with the rare exception of the individual smoking). The _ONLY_ reason that engaging in the buying and selling of drugs is in any way dangerous is because it is illegal. It was dangerous to buy and sell alcohol in the 20's but now it isn't, why is that?

Self-correcting in what way?

Actually there is no evidence that this is true. It is just one of those rumors that gets perpetuated. Indeed it isn't.

That is an important distinction. Thanks for pointing it out.

Right. We have decided that it is OK since it isn't illegal. Since this one holds up then being gay holds up as well. Now you have your reason.

I have searched and everything I can find indicates that while suicide is frowned upon it isn't illegal in the US. If you can cite something different I would be very interested to see it. Before this thread started I also thought suicide was illegal but I can't find any documentation to support that.

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kissing=sex, need more?

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Does this mean you have watched your parents having sex, repeatedly?And I'm with Dan on this one, I am a stud when it comes to sex. I must average 10 times a day, and some of that in public.

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I am against it, need more?

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Actually we were hoping you might explain why you are against it. It is difficult to have a discussion when you don't know what the other party's beef is with a perfectly simple situation. All of the people who are arguing with you simply don't feel it is wrong at all. Since it isn't wrong then it must be OK. You don't seem willing to explain why that isn't the case. And I'm just not buying the "mental anguish" angle. I see and read things every day that bother me to one degree or another but that doesn't make them wrong.

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Also, cumming in a girls mouth or spilling your seed anywhere but into the vagina is immoral. The rest is moral.

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Did you hold this view before you became a Christian or after? If the answer is after then, as per you opening post, this isn’t a relevant reason.

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Note, the serpent did not tell Eve to actually eat from the tree. He simply pointed out that god was lying to them regarding the consequences of eating from the tree.

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Oh, you mean she got tricked. lol

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No, She was told the truth. This is not trickery.

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Without the tree, we would not have free will, we would just be robots.

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This is off topic but I have wondered about this. Did Adam and Eve really have free will if they had no knowledge of good and evil?