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Are there any "problems" with the ToE that are generally not addressed?

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08-01-2004 12:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Hangdawg13
08-01-2004 11:44 AM

No, it was not a problem at all. It was thought to be extinct. That's all. Finding some simply showed that they were not extinct. Why would that be a problem?
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08-01-2004 12:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Hangdawg13
08-01-2004 11:44 AM

Forgot to add.
Here is a site with some information on the monotremata. I have been trying to find some information on the recent findings in Argentina and will post it once I relocate it.
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Monotremata
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08-01-2004 12:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Hangdawg13
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Found the refernce to the Argentine find
It's located Here
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This critter was first described in 1992, and additional samples were found in 2002.
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08-01-2004 11:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 13 by NosyNed
08-01-2004 11:21 PM

Re: A basic problem
But there is are other steps needed for that to be useful. Not only do you need to predict the evolutionary changes needed, you need to be able to accurately predict the environment and then have the wisdom to implement in a timely fashion.
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Of the various challenges, IMHO, Wisdom will be the most difficult.
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08-02-2004 8:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by NosyNed
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Re: wisdom to implement?
I was thinking beyond the lab. Sorry.
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09-01-2004 3:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by KCdgw
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Re: Monotreme fossils in Argentina No Big Deal
I didn't know that they were a problem.
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09-07-2004 5:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Robert Byers
09-07-2004 5:40 PM

Re: coelacanth
Robert
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There is no purpose, no direction to change. There is no schedule, no timeline. There is no goal, no objective.
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Change is random. It can happen, or not happen.
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The filter is simply natural selection. Some species survive to reproduce, some don't.
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You've been told, numerous times, that coelacanth has changed. The species alive today is not the same critter from 65 million years ago. It, like most everything else except creationists, has evolved.
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Again you retreat to it didn't need to change because its envirorment stayed the same.
PROVE IT. Where's the evidence?
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The evidence, and it's clear enough for even a rock to understand, is that the sucker is still alive today. We can see the fossils from 65 million years ago and we can see the critters swiming today.
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That's evidence.
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01-06-2005 12:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 258 by Tal
01-06-2005 5:18 AM

Re: Learn something first
My knowledge of a particular subject doesn't change the fact that you guys routinely speak of ideas and theories as if they are fact.
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Well, Evolution is a fact or as close to fact as we are ever likely to find.
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The Theory of Evolution is, as stated, a theory. It is the best explanation so far of the fact of Evolution.
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