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JonF
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Message 68 of 117 (97118)
04-02-2004 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by teen15m6
04-02-2004 2:23 PM


All lies, and well-known and long-refuted ones as well. Where are you getting this so-called "information"? Jack Chick comiocs? Why are you swallowing these falsehoods whole? How gullible are you?
One of the several Neandertals skeletons found had arthritis, but the others did not.
Peking man: the original finds have disppeared, but we still have the casts made from them, and additional fossils that have been discovered at the site, and fossils from the same era discovered at other sites.
Pretty much nobody ever was influenced by Nebraska Man.
Heidelberg man's jaw is definitely not that of a modern human.
Your confused version of the Lucy's knee joint canard is totally off the wall. Here's the real scoop on Lucy.

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JonF
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Message 106 of 117 (97274)
04-02-2004 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Mnenth
04-02-2004 4:37 PM


And you're dead wrong about Lucy, too. There was no "totally human legbone" involved.
can you prove that? Im not saying that teen is right either, but can u back up what you're saying?
See Lucy's Knee Joint: A Case Study in Creationists' Willingness to Admit their Errors.

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JonF
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Message 107 of 117 (97276)
04-02-2004 6:46 PM
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04-02-2004 3:18 PM


from what i have just read i am dead on about lucys knee joint, just because the finder didnt put it in writing doesnt mean he didnt admit it, and he wasnt the only one to admit it.
Then you have a severe problem with reading comprehension. From the linked page:
quote:
Creationists have been making the claim that Donald Johanson found the knee joint of "Lucy," a 40%-complete skeleton of the species Australopithecus afarensis, in a location "Sixty to seventy meters lower in the strata and two to three kilometers away" (Willis 1987). They have sometimes gone on to add the claim that "Only under questioning did [Johanson] admit that the knee was found over a mile from Lucy. To the best of our knowledge this admission has not appeared in print!" (Willis 1987; emphasis in original; Also see Brown 1989a, p. 44) The claim is used by creationists to show that (a) evolutionists are dishonest and (b) "Lucy" did not walk upright. It successfully shows neither of these things, because it is false. ... The claim is not only false, it is clearly shown to be false in Johanson's published writings about "Lucy" (e.g., Johanson and Edey 1981, ch. 7-8) and it has been pointed out repeatedly to its proponents that it is false.{emphasis added - JRF}

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JonF
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Message 108 of 117 (97278)
04-02-2004 6:49 PM
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04-02-2004 3:22 PM


Umm, about Lucy's "knee joint" it wasnt a knee joint they found over a mile away and 3 stratus layers down. Knee joints are cartalidge. It was the bones in the knee, and they proved that Lucy didnt walk upright. Another thing, Lucy's toes and feet were grasping and curled, like an apes, not a humans.
Totally false, as demonstrated at the link I posted already.

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