The Nature of Mutations

quote:

---

I agree. I must also state that variation is not an evolutionary concept at all. It was adopted by evolutionary theorists in an attempt to save their theory, but not even that has helped them except to the non-thinking masses (not directed at you).

---

Yes it is directed at Crashfrog, and at everyone else who believes in evolution. If it is not directed at Crashfrog, then it isn't true. You said that variation saves evolutionary theory only to the non-thinking masses, but both Crashfrog and I didn't think it needed saving in the first place. By what you said, that makes us non-thinking.What's worse is that stats show your statement is the opposite of truth, anyway. Anti-evolutionism is what is popular with the non-thinking masses.According to a Gallup Poll (Beliefs of the U.S. public about evolution and creation) conducted in 1997 some 39% of U.S. citizens believe in creation. 54% believe evolution happened. That 54% is divided into 44% who are theistic evolutionists and 10% who believe God had nothing to do with it.Among scientists, however, it is quite a different story, with only 5% being creationists, and that other 34%, compared to the general population, switching to atheistic evolutionists. Theistic evolutionists stay about the same among scientists as among the general population.The end result, Phosph, is that the unthinking masses turn out to be creationists! This result is shown even more clearly by the following stats.Percent of Creationists:College graduates: 25%
No High School Diploma: 65%Income over 50,000: 29%
Income under 20,000: 59%You might be prone to quote the Scripture that says, "Not many wise..." but remember it's you who said the unthinking masses were fooled by variation as an argument for evolution. There have been a lot of inaccurate things proposed on these forums, but very little that is as insulting and inaccurate together as what you said.[edited to add link to poll]Paul[This message has been edited by truthlover, 05-20-2003]

quote:

---

For clarification, when I say non-thinking masses, irregardless of what Galop says, I refer to the public, not scientists.

---

That's my point. It's scientists who have been won over to evolution, while the public--your non-thinking masses--are won over to anti-evolution. It is not the unthinking masses who have been "fooled" by the doctrine of variation, it is scientists. The non-thinking masses agree with you! And the more time they spend thinking, the less they agree with you, because it is not just the educated, but also the internet surfers, who get to hear both sides of the story, who swing most heavily to the evolution side.

In other words, your statement that variation has fooled no one but the non-thinking masses is simply false. If your opponents in this debate had said that your assertions and wishes only fooled the non-thinking masses, they would have been statistically justified. You, however, when you make such a statement, are simply wrong.