GENESIS 22:17 / NOT A PROMISE GIVEN TO THE JEWS

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It is not a matter of opinion - Greek culture developed out of the God ordained genesis race: Hebrew.

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Funny, because most archaeologists consider Greek culture, most clearly evidenced in the Minoan civilization, as having been taken along when they immigrated from Asia Minor. And seing as the broader greek styles of the aegean civilization originated in Minoan Crete...I'd most definitely call that "a matter of opinion". What the heck were you thinking when you stated "It is not a matter of opinion"?

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The entire book decimates and exposes the stranglehold that secular/atheist controlled entities have on learning

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Oh please. Back it up that atheists control learning. You sound like someone arguing that the Jews control the media.

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Every scholar of the 19th century was proven absolutely wrong by Schliemann.

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Back it up.

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Velikovsky has done the same in the 20th century to every egyptologist/atheist.

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Yeah, if you believe, for example, that manna from heaven is due to Jupiter kicking its moon Venus as a comet, which flew past Earth, and rained down its nonexistant carbohydrate/bacteria atmosphere, before, in a few thousand years time, becoming one of the most circular-orbiting planets due to mystical electromagnetic effects.All he needs to do is work the Illuminati into the story and he's all set.

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IOW, your head is buried in a single source and a subjective single interpretation of that source.

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Oh, now that is *classic* coming from you. Who else has backed up Velikovky's bonkers claims about the solar system (which he uses as the foundation for his biblical claims), for example?

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To acknowledge the entire argument while giving the proper weight to the evidence will not happen because that would confirm the veracity of the Bible and the falsification of your worldview.

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Kinda funny that you'd say that, given that people who were initially biblical literalists, and remained devout Christians through their entire lives, created the fundamentals of pretty much all fields of modern science, be it geology, astronomy, chemistry, physics, biology, etc, when they simply could no longer reconcile the evidence of the real world with the bible - and then, with their new foundations, the fields took off.

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despite the evidence which proves the Bible correct no matter what

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Let me know when you manage to select the genes of cattle by what color sticks you hold up in front of them when they're mating.

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Atheists hide their bias and worldview and are thus the most untrustworthy sources to learn from

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Wait, are you accusing science of being dominated by "closet atheists" who simply profess otherwise? I seriously hope that I'm misunderstanding you.

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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Rei: Funny, because most archaeologists consider Greek culture, most clearly evidenced in the Minoan civilization, as having been taken along when they immigrated from Asia Minor. And seing as the broader greek styles of the aegean civilization originated in Minoan Crete...

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I'd most definitely call that "a matter of opinion". What the heck were you thinking when you stated "It is not a matter of opinion"?

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The book I cited from by Dr. Gordon proves Greek culture originated from Shemitic biblical descendants via Egypt.

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You keep doing this, and it drives me crazy: You pick up on what one outspoken author - who disagrees with the majority of the archaeological community has said - wrote, and then you insist not only that it is true, but that it's not a matter of opinion.*Of Course* it's a matter of opinion, or otherwise the majority of archaeologists wouldn't be disagreeing. What is hard about this for you to understand? Or are you under the delusion that the majority of archaeologists buy into his tripe, despite the fact that early Minoan art styles are the exact same things you find in Asia Minor at the time?

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19th century scholars assumed Troy was mythical until Schliemann took Homer at face value. Layard's Nineveh digs proved the existence of Nimrud a person also assumed to be mythical. This is history 101 stuff and your tone implies that you are going to feign ignorance or worse - just deny these facts which are embarrassing to the status quo.

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And what exactly does this have to do with anything? When people set out to find Troy, they found it. When a thousand times more people set out to find the Exodus, they found nothing, and instead found countless things that argued against it.

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"Illuminant light,
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The "majority" is a straw man if you mean by majority that the truth resides in the majority. I could assert the same, that the "majority" say thus and such, while the majority to me are theist sources.

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I didn't just say "the majority" - you truncated me. I said "the majority of archaeologists".

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BUT, I agree with your point, that the "majority" do not embrace Dr. Gordon's research.

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This does not mean Gordon is wrong it only means that the majority believe something else

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Quite true, indeed. But it means that it is an opinion.

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But Gordon's voluminous research remains: Greek culture originated from Hebrew via Egypt. This unknown fact is also proof for the effects of the invisible Devil - who is claimed to exist by the Bible.

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Would you like to discuss some of his claims of evidence?

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, yet no evo will forsake ToE because of the paucity of transitional fossils in existence.

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Transitional vertebrate fossils FAQ.

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If humans evolved from animals there should be mountains of fossils

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Mountains *are* typically *filled* with fossils in non-granitic/basaltic layers. There *are* mountains of fossils, and in fact, almost every mountain is filled with fossils. Even Mount Everest.

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but in reality we have a foot locker amount of disputed bones which are kept in vaults.

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Rick Hedon's group excavated and analyzed 20,000 fossils from one quarry. Don't kid yourself about the number of fossils that have been studied in the world. In 1998, there were about 44,000 geoscientists (of varying types) employed outside of colleges. Now while most of them aren't going to be excavating and categorizing fossils, there still is a huge amount of data that is studied every single year. Consequently, whether intentional or not, you're attacking a straw man.

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"Illuminant light,
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I was talking about human transitionals, which by volume in existence amount to a food locker full.

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Go ahead - fit the remains of over 500 neanderthals alone into a shoebox. Certainly *some species* only have a few known fossils, but about half of the 2-3 dozen species have quite a few fossils.

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If evolution was true every house would have dozens laying around.

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Ah. So let me get your view of the evolution of hominids straight: Hominids are expected to have evolved everywhere on the earth?Seriously... are you kidding?

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The point is that this paucity is no problem but Israel in Sinai is not given the same benefit = pure hypocrisy.

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There are thousands of hominid fossils, which survived millions of years, for which we just happened to guess the right place to look (educated guesses, mind you). Where is the evidence for *anything*, from a minimum of *a half million people*, in a *known area*, from *a couple millenia ago*?

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"Illuminant light,
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You know, that's a good question... I'm not sure how that happened.Regardless, is your only response to my post about "foot locker" vs "food locker"?

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You know, I'm not going to get too much into you and Amlodhi's conversation (unless he chooses not to respond), but didn't the fact that Greeks aren't semitic, nor do they speak a semitic language, nor have any semitic-origin words, kinda clue you in that what you've been reading is BS?This message has been edited by Rei, 09-23-2004 06:48 PM

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Since you didn't answer (you didn't answer my earlier post either, just picking on instead a one-letter transcription error - but I'll ignore that for now ), I'll repeat:"didn't the fact that Greeks aren't semitic, nor do they speak a semitic language, nor have any semitic-origin words, kinda clue you in that what you've been reading is BS?"There are two points you need to address contained within this statement. You didn't address either:1) The Greeks *are not semitic*. Their genetics are not semitic, they don't have semitic morphological features, etc.2) The Greek language is not semitic. They don't even have imported semitic words.So please, explain how semites founded Greece and greek culture, but didn't leave their genetics or even a smidgeon of their language around. Greek is an Indo-European language - it actually shares closer ties with Hindi than with Hebrew.

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"Illuminant light,
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