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mike the wiz
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Message 79 of 155 (171969)
12-28-2004 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by mikehager
12-28-2004 6:10 PM


Re: Tongues
I speak in tongues.

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mike the wiz
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Message 82 of 155 (172071)
12-29-2004 8:56 AM
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12-28-2004 7:59 PM


Re: Tongues
Perhaps you would be willing to submit to James Randi and have the claim verified.You could simultaneously slap us back to the stone age in disbelief while at the same time winning the prize of 1 million dollars
This isn't an understanding of the purpose of tongues. There are two - one for edification of the church - and the tongue for prayer in the Spirit, to build and edify one's faith. So these questions are most inapropriate - as this is not a science experiment;
1 Corinthians 14:2 says For one who speaks in an (unknown) tongue speaks not to men but to G-d, for no one understands of catches his meaning, because in the (Holy) Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things
1 Corinthians 14: 4
He who speaks in a (strange) tongue edified and improves himself.
This is the gift I have, and what I meant..
Do you think you can buy a gift from God? What possibly makes you think that God shall be tempted for one million dollars? You are as they said in the NT - confused, thinking that the Holy Spirit can be bought, or that God can be tempted. But there shall be no sign or proof given to you.
If I would prove this then you would have no reason to believe. I said I speak in tongues. In a subject like this - that's all I need to say. As I already know nothing can convince you. Tis the Pecos process.
As you can see - if no one understands what I speak - how would a test prove anything?
Y r u calling me Buzsaw?

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mike the wiz
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Message 85 of 155 (172097)
12-29-2004 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by jar
12-29-2004 9:54 AM


Re: Blowing Smoke Mike.
Jar, thanks for proving what I said.
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself.
And I agree with the other quote also, that except we utter words that be understood...Erm, here's what I said;
mike the wiz writes:
There are two - one for edification of the church - and the tongue for prayer in the Spirit, to build and edify one's faith. So these questions are most inapropriate - as this is not a science experiment
So basically I agree with everything you quoted.
Please Stop accusing me of blowing smoke in every thread Jar - it's an unwarranted accusation, and irrelevant to the topic which I am engaging in a serious manner.
Jar writes:
Paul is very clear there that speaking in tongues is worthless and pointless
You didn't quote that. That's opinion. He says it edifies the one with the tongue. But yes, I agree - an experiment is worthless, because of your second quote.
It seems you've taken to arguing with me when you even agree with me. May I ask why this interests you?
If tongues is nonsense to you that's fair enough - I don't expect it to mean much to anyone here, nor do I claim I've proved anything.
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mike the wiz
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Message 87 of 155 (172116)
12-29-2004 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by NosyNed
12-29-2004 2:17 PM


Re: Some clarifiction on tongues
Ned, I haven't pretended to prove anything. I've only stated that I speak in tongues. The bible doesn't say it is gibberish. The point is that personal tongues, or praying in the Spirit - is for the individual.
As for gibbering like a mental patient, that's a fitting and predictable response from how a naturalistic and atheistic person would see this.
Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
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mike the wiz
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Message 108 of 155 (172360)
12-30-2004 6:22 PM
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12-29-2004 11:19 PM


Re: Tongues
This is about as classic a dodge as I could ever imsgine.You speak in tongues no one can understand about secret hidden things no one knows about.SHEESH.
But all I said is that I speak in tongues. It's a statement of fact.

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mike the wiz
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Message 111 of 155 (172370)
12-30-2004 7:32 PM
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12-30-2004 7:25 PM


Re: Tongues
No - I don't mean any of that. I'll repeat what I first said;
I speak in tongues.
I don't have to prove this, because, well - I do this, and know I do.
Thanks.

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mike the wiz
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Message 114 of 155 (172378)
12-30-2004 7:53 PM
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12-30-2004 7:37 PM


Re: Tongues
Well, I've never got anyone to believe anything I say in the past two years of forum activity anyway. I don't expect you to believe me. To you - it should be nonsense or irrelevant. Personal experience cannot in anyway prove anything to anyone else.
It's like with my prayers - I consider them answered, but that will only ever be personal evidence to the individual.

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mike the wiz
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Message 116 of 155 (172383)
12-30-2004 8:14 PM
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12-30-2004 8:08 PM


Re: Tongues
I'm afraid it is a fact that I speak in tongues.

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mike the wiz
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Message 117 of 155 (172389)
12-30-2004 8:25 PM
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12-30-2004 8:08 PM


Re: Tongues
U seem to be angry at me. R u considering that I was just mentioning tongues as a personal reality?
Y must I be bull****ing? Y r u so cynical against mikey?

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