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Who's afraid of a godless universe?

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JavaMan
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02-16-2006 3:45 AM

Many people feel that a godless universe would be a frightening place, vast, amoral and empty of meaning.
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Others, including myself, would find a universe ruled by an all-powerful God much more unsettling, especially if that God were the despotic tyrant that Iano, amongst others here, seems to believe in.
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So my question is:
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Which would you find more scary, a universe without a god, or one ruled over by an all-powerful God?
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This message has been edited by JavaMan, 02-18-2006 01:39 PM
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02-18-2006 1:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 2 by AdminOmni
02-17-2006 9:39 AM

Re: Flesh it out a bit?
I've edited the post to give a bit more meat to the question. Is that enough?
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02-18-2006 1:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 3 by Adminnemooseus
02-17-2006 10:27 AM

Re: I fear that some admin might promote a PNT with a really crappy topic title
Done.
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02-19-2006 3:05 AM 		Reply to: Message 4 by AdminNWR
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Re: Adding my $0.02
It isn't as if there are two universes out there, one with no God, the other with a despot - and we get to choose which one we join.
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We are stuck in the universe we are in. We can't make that choice. So I don't understand what is to be debated here.
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You are kidding me surely? You haven't noticed that pretty much every religious poster here mentions this issue at some point. Of course there's only one universe, but there are at least two radically different views of it. Isn't that what the debate here is about?
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02-20-2006 9:12 AM 		Reply to: Message 28 by iano
02-20-2006 7:35 AM

How is salt a random assortment of chemicals?
Could the random assortment of chemical accidents called Schraf explain why her conclusion shouldn't be taken with a pinch of another random assortment of chemical accidents (salt)
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Salt is a strictly defined crystalline structure of Na and Cl. Can you tell me what's random about it?
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