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Message 32 of 162 (182804)
02-03-2005 9:09 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by LDSdude
02-02-2005 7:25 PM

LDSdude writes:

can you imagine your current mind just...............gone?

Of course I can, it's simple. All I have to do is think of the time before I was born. My mind was just... not there. There was nothing for me before my birth. I had no life to live yet, I had no influence in the world, I didn't know what was happening in the world. I was just just... not there! Pretty much as you described. And you know what? I didn't care, just as I won't care after I die. So, for consistency's sake, I might as well not care now. I think I'll just have some fun in the mean time, if it's allright with you.

LDSdude writes:

what is the purpose of your lives?

One of the perks of being an atheist is that you get to decide yourself what you want the purpose of your life to be. You can be the atheist version of Mother Theresa if you want. Or you can be a worthless shit. It's up to you. Now, isn't that great?

LDSdude writes:

Is it to spend one-sixth of your life on the toilet?

I can't think of any reason why anyone would spend such an inordinate amount of time on the toilet, or it must be that they are scared so shitless of their god and the concept of hell that consequently they must try really long and hard to produce even the tiniest of turds. We atheists can produce crap by the bucketful in no time at all, as is shown in this paragraph.

LDSdude writes:

It can't be to learn everything you can, because once you're dead it's of no influence to you.

But it's fun anyway. And besides, as long as I'm still alive, it's of tremendous influence to me.

LDSdude writes:

So seriously, I just want to know what an Atheist honestly expects after he/she dies.

So seriously: nothing, period.

LDSdude writes:

I don't want to know what happens to your body, I want to know what happens to your personality.

I am my body, so if I can't tell you what happens to it, I can't answer your question.

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 54 of 162 (183016)
02-04-2005 4:12 AM

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02-03-2005 6:09 PM

robinrohan writes:

Para writes:

You can be the atheist version of Mother Theresa if you want. Or you can be a worthless shit.

Neither of those possibilities appeal to me. Any other suggestions?

Think of them as two extremes in a continuum. Be creative.

robinrohan writes:

Damned if I can come up with a purpose for my having existed.

If you have to think of it after you have existed, it will be too late. Better think of something now.

This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 02-04-2005 04:18 AM

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Message 82 of 162 (183221)
02-05-2005 4:11 AM

Reply to: Message 77 by jar
02-04-2005 7:25 PM

Wordplay

jar writes:

Well, many are cold but few are frozen.

Brilliant!

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Message 97 of 162 (183568)
02-06-2005 4:59 PM

Reply to: Message 94 by robinrohan
02-06-2005 11:41 AM

Spiritually healthy?

robinrohan writes:

Only spiritually healthy people have such experiences.

What do you mean? Are people who don't have these experiences not "spiritually healthy"?

Are you back to dualism again?

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Message 104 of 162 (183677)
02-07-2005 10:20 AM

Reply to: Message 102 by robinrohan
02-07-2005 9:14 AM

robinrohan writes:

I said that only spiritually healthy people have transcendental experiences, so it would not follow necessarily that spiritually healthy people must have such experiences. I think this is a case of the undistributed what-do-you-call.

You are right, what you say doesn't follow, does indeed not follow. But that wasn't my suggestion. Incidentally, my suggestion doesn't follow either, so forget I said it.

By the way, the fallacy of the undistributed middle can only apply to a syllogism, which I had great trouble trying to discover here. (I gave up.)

robinrohan writes:

You sure are a taskmaster, Para, about this dualism business! You keep the whip handy!

But of course. Dualism is the root of all evil. {*cracks whip ostentatiously*}

robinrohan writes:

My own view is that, given any sort of religious idea, dualism is necessary as an assumption since I don't see any difference between "mind" and "soul."

Could you rephrase that? I don't understand what you mean, I don't see the connection between the nessecity of assuming dualism and not seeing the difference between mind and soul.

robinrohan writes:

In reality I'm still my old nihilistic self...

So you haven't decided yet where you want to be on the scale from shit to Mother T.?

robinrohan writes:

Cheers.

What's that whisky you are enjoying?

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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