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Author Topic:   Here be my problem with "God"
godsmac
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Message 61 of 106 (86578)
02-16-2004 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by crashfrog
11-20-2003 11:19 PM


It's not the good deeds...
We get into heaven by God's grace alone. Jesus died for us and forgave us all our sins. It's not good deeds that get us into heaven. It's believing in His sacrifice for us. Of course, it follows that we will follow His teachings and perform good deeds in His name if we truly believe. But that's what gets us there, our believing, not our good deeds!

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godsmac
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Message 63 of 106 (86587)
02-16-2004 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by crashfrog
02-16-2004 3:06 AM


God loves us whether we love Him or not. If bad deeds kept us out, no one, repeat NO ONE, would ever get in. We're all guilty of sin in some degree. Even the best church-goers and good-deed-doers struggle with sin. It's a daily, moment to moment choice we make, because we do have sinful natures. A person who does believe will strive the harder to do what is right. The wonderful thing about Jesus is that just a single instance of repentance will earn redemption from a lifetime of sin.

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godsmac
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Message 73 of 106 (86689)
02-16-2004 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by crashfrog
02-16-2004 4:24 AM


Hmmm. I never read anything that said Hitler had accepted Jesus. His actions in life definitely did not point to that.
I once heard an analogy that likened both heaven and hell to a banquet table. God has provided us with this banquet table; it has no head, it goes on forever in two directions. Seated on either side of the table are all the people who have ever lived and died. Those who have accepted God's forgiveness partake of the heavenly feast of everlasting life with gusto. Those who have not just sit there with unbending arms. They can see the food, touch the food, smell the food, but can never put it to their lips to partake of it because they have never accepted God's grace. God did His part to provide the feast, but the sinners have not done theirs to partake of it. All they need to do is bend!
Yeah, I think Hitler is there, too, but I doubt he is eating of the food of eternal life.

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