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Free Will and Biblical Prophecy: Are They Mutually Exclusive?

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Modulous
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Message 87 of 227 (495169)
01-21-2009 12:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 85 by ICANT
01-20-2009 8:16 PM

Re: Free Will
Sure they could have but they didn't.
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Pilate let the death penalty be carried out to keep from making the Pharisees mad.
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The Pharisees had been planning this moment for 3 years.
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What do you think it would have taken to change their minds.
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God hardened the heart of Pharaoh. Might he have softened their hearts?
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01-21-2009 1:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 88 by ICANT
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Re: Free Will
For 3 and 1/2 years Jesus tried to soften their hearts. They saw the lame made able to walk, the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and the dead to live again.
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What more could He do to soften their hearts?
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Are you suggesting that God was incapable of softening their hearts?
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01-21-2009 3:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 92 by ICANT
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Re: Free Will
No I am not suggesting that God was incapable of softening their minds (hearts).
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I am saying that since man has free will He would not soften their mind to accept Him.
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If He did there would be no free will.
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I'm confused. You said that Jesus tried to soften their hearts but failed to do so. Are you making one of those convenient distinctions between Jesus and God? Then I guess that ends this line of discussion.
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01-22-2009 6:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 98 by ICANT
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Re: Free Will
So God tried to do something. Was able to do something. But that something didn't happen?
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Can you see why I might be confused?
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