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Author Topic:   The name for the point where a probability changes
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Message 3 of 186 (171625)
12-26-2004 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Syamsu
12-26-2004 11:59 AM


First the chance of something is 1/4, then later it is 1/3, in between the chance changed, the point where this chance changed is called
Well it is probably called cheating since in order for the chance to go from 1 in 4 to 1 in 3 the number of options for the way an event can unfold have been altered.

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Message 13 of 186 (171815)
12-27-2004 10:15 PM
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12-27-2004 3:21 AM


Re: not necessarily
Syamsu
Do any of you really believe in day to day life, that probabilities don't change, that probabilities aren't real?
Of course,probabilities change but only if the initial conditions change before the event occurs,not after the fact.

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Message 132 of 186 (175467)
01-10-2005 10:57 AM
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01-07-2005 8:12 PM


Re: I would settle for
Peeper
My understanding of Quantum mechanics is that the universe is deterministic. The wavefunction evolves according to causality. It is the initial conditions which are indeterministic. Such was the downfall of classical theory, which stated that knowing the initial conditions of a system one could predict its future behavior. One cannot know the initial conditions with absolute certainty. But, the wavefunction evolves in a deterministic fashion.
According to Quantum Mechanics what we can say about the universe is restrained by the limits of the uncertainty principle.We cannot know the position and momentum of an individual particle to better than
delta X * delta Y{x} > or = h/2Pi
If we specify a completely accurate position then by this law the uncertainty in momentum becomes infinite.The difficulty is inherent in the wave aspect of matter.
This same uncertainty principle applies to the energy and time aspects of nature as well.
delta E * delta t{E} > or = h/2Pi This leads to the implication and discovery of virtual particles.In violation of the second law of thermodynamics particles can create energy as long as it is returned to the system within the time frame imposed by the uncertainty principe. Thus delta E /{h/2Pi} > or = delta t.

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