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Author Topic:   Free will, perfection and limits on god
DominionSeraph
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Message 56 of 248 (190876)
03-10-2005 2:28 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by New Cat's Eye
02-21-2005 5:23 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
I think god wanted to make a being that could appreciate his love and love him back.
Now, he could have made a perfect being that always loved him, but it kinda would have been like a robot, and not really love. If we love god by default then the value of that love is compromised. God wanted a being that could love him but did not have to love him. Not having to love him and then choosing to love him makes it kick-ass.
Try to not to love him. Succeeding for 10 seconds will be sufficient, and then you can go right back to loving.
The fact that there are other paths does not mean that they are open to you.
My sister likes Dr. Phil. I can't stand him. Does the fact that the former path can be taken by others mean that I can choose to take it? Can I choose to enjoy listening to that moron?
Seems that the situation + the person involved (including their previous experiences) --> the reaction.
Change the situation, and the reaction may change.
Change the person, and the reaction may differ.
Give the person some new experiences relating to the situation, and the reaction may change.
However, change nothing, and the reaction stays the same.
At no point does it seem that you can get above this process. A given person's reaction will not change unless something else does first.
Looks like straight-up causality.

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DominionSeraph
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Message 58 of 248 (191079)
03-11-2005 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by sidelined
03-11-2005 12:42 PM


Re: Crossing the River Jordan: Hee Haw.
sidelined writes:
My question to you is this. What is the consistency presented by the presence of Jesus that allows for human life forms to exist yet not be a purpose in god's mechanizations?
Well, humans could be a side-issue; or simply one piece of a larger puzzle.

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