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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Taq writes: Yes, but only because it is the best of the fiat currencies. After Nixon separated the dollar from gold, the dollar became counter-cyclical to the gold. The higher the dollar, the lower the gold. Only fools believe that the dollar is determining the value of gold. The dollar can't even determine the value of itself.
The dollar is still doing just fine.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Theo writes: And *surprise,surprise* the dollar is up! Way more than it should be up, given how many dollars (excess dollars) are in circulation. What goes up must come down.
And gold and silver are down for the year.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Did it ever occur to you that the value of the gold is inflating even as the market holds it down? If the credit markets all imploded tomorrow, some estimate the value of the gold to be north of $50,000.00 an ounce. (for a brief time, until stability was re-established)
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Theo writes: I'll try. Start with the 5 times claim So far I only found this which supports my critics rather than I. I'm going to keep looking, however.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Perhaps if we back a global currency with humans we would have a bunch oof individuals, each unique...to back the commerce. Sounds doable in theory but evil in practice.l Stick with the gold.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Other times, it needs a good caption. E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E is a good caption,. So is E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Again, my argument is basically this:
Hard assets are more likely to have a set value that is at a bedrock level. They are unlikely to ever become worthless, as can a fiat currency or a bitcoin.The only other thing that we now use to back fiat currency is humans. People. The trust of the people. This, however, is far from a bedrock value. Humans are fickle. Changing.I prefer a hard asset, as will everyone once the fiat currencies implode. Feel free to call me ignorant and uninformed, as does Theodoric. I would best him in an IQ test any day of the week.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
A video (or documentary) is quite capable of going into every bit as much depth as is a book. You just don't like them because you can't see them on the library computer, and have given away too much spare change to afford basic home internet. Jesus might approve, though. I doubt He would like the internet either.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Democrats are quite capable of convincing people that there is only one way and that they are that way.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
First off, I have never talked up crypto. I knew that it was a Ponzi scheme from the very beginning. Now if it were backed by gold that would be another matter.
Theo writes: I will have to do some research. Right now, im going to sleep. Please list fiat currencies now worthless and explain how they became worthless. The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
My latest book is quite entertaining and informative. Initially, as I began to listen to it, I realized that it was not necessarily a pro Christian worldview book, and I began to feel a bit of anxiety. After praying about it, I felt a green light and a thumbs up in regard to reading it and studying it as deeply as I have my other books. The full title of this book is Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire (from authors own website).
Actually, I think that of all of my books presented thus far, this book would be one that most of the peanut gallery would approve of and agree with. In all honesty, I think it allows me to see the perspective that many of you have regarding organized religion and the shaping of America as we now know it today. Even as a true believer, I can only gain a more complete perspective by reading this book.Here is an article that Kurt Anderson(the author) wrote in the Atlantic:
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I have listened to the book up through Chapter 9. This is a book worthy of serious study.
I just purchased the book on Kindle to add to my Audible copy. Here I will share with everyone the Table Of Contents:
Kurt Anderson:To be continued. As I said, Ive just started Chapter 9. The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Note that I decided to read the book regardless what it was about. I'm just admitting anxiety at being exposed to uncomfortable worldviews.
Now as for you, you have the audacity to imagine that your rational view on things is always superior to religious belief. You threw out the Holy Baby with the bathwater.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: You do not get to dictate to me what the beginning and ending of the story is. You also do not get to have your own evidence, a comment that you have used on me a time or two. It may well be that Kurt Anderson is a non-believer, but he is very adept and skilled at describing trends in American culture. Rational is always superior to irrational. Period. End of story. As a matter of fact, Anderson describes the land of grown-up make believe in American politics starting with JFK and ending with Ronald Reagan. In this case, irrationality drove the myth of American exceptionalism and described an era (1960's, bragging rights to having the first man on the moon, a whimsical preoccupation with youth portrayed early on by an American president(JFK) who was dashingly good looking, a war hero (PT 109) and a youthful wife (31) who presided over an American Empire from a white palace known as Camelot. JFK even had as a girlfriend the idyllic sexual fantasy of Marilyn Monroe. In this early era of political theater, art imitated life and life imitated art. Kurt Anderson: Compared to Reagan, reality TV star Trump was a piker.
Kurt Anderson: So don't tell me that rational always trumps(no pun intended ) irrational. The national soap opera awaits a new and capable actor. We the people are tired of reality. We want America to be back in the saddle again. We do not want to pay the bill nor do we want any sort of reparations. Everyone is equal and everyone is on the same page going forward. And we have no problem with Jesus being black, as long as He returns on a white horse. (thinly veiled attempt at humor)The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: I do not look forward to a post-Christian culture. I very much believe that Jesus is alive eternally and is(was) a real person. Life should always turn out fair in the end. Everybody gets a ribbon. We the people will be rescued (and will need rescuing, by the way) before our species becomes extinct. If your worldview was solid, why would you be anxious about challenges to it? The anxiety stems from the idea that there is no rescuer and that the world will end up trying to fix itself. I strongly believe that humans are incapable of enough humility to get along with each other. I doubt whether *any* of you would give everything up in order to save the people on the planet. We need Jesus. Not some imitator who will propose a unified global effort at change and growth. Case closed. End of story. ringo writes: This is a blatant falsehood and misrepresentation of my position. Just so the peanut gallery can take notes. YOU are the one who threw the Holy Baby out. YOU are the one who denies everything He said after He grew up.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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