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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I was almost ready to make a joke about the EvC crew growing a spine, and taking the journey to Ukraine to fight, but decided not to. Part of the reason I did not quote the actual article is that I saw at least one poster here talk about killing Russians Well...you almost seem to want to kill white people...or at least take them out of global power. Don't you understand the issue is not about white privilege or ethnic minority power? This type of prejudice is why I think you need to be banned. AddbyEdit: Putin is evil no matter what color he shows up as. Quit trying to foment global revolution. Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
One obvious (to me) fact that most news ignores is that Putin wants Ukraine for the Wheat as much as anything else.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
You best stop insulting me and challenging my intelligence. It is against Forum guidelines.
You have no clue who Jesus is, was, or what His lesson is apart from the role model that we all have to work to become. You nor I will ever be like Jesus. And this world will NOT survive through our own logic, reason, and reality. Additionally, you don't understand money. You seem to think that continued fiat currencies will be all we need. You fail to see the connection to a one-world cashless economic system. Traceable. Mandatorily taxable. Sheesh, you are clueless. But you don't believe that humans are bad. Except for Christians (Conservative Jesus believing ones.) I'll never win these arguments. I no longer care. You will get the world that you want, but you will never mandate me any more than my Jesus will ever penetrate your ego. Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This all may be true on the ground and in a ground war. There are two ways NATO can be hurt.I still argue that the main way that the West will be crippled is economically. The other method is Cyber-attacks. Granted Russia is nearly done. I feel that this war will continue through other means. It may turn into an economic war.
We may also find ourselves confronting another COVID virus or something similar."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
The Crime of ’71: When Nixon Ended the Dollar’s Last Connection to Gold
This article explains the dilemma from an admittedly Libertarian viewpoint. The alternative, by the way (and for you Liberals), is this:
quote:Let me guess that most of you see no problem with such an approach! quote: When Communism initially fell in 1990, it was partially because the United States simply and decisively outspent the Eastern Bloc. Ironically, the reverse will now happen. The Russian attempts at changing the global order will involve allowing the West to outspend them. The house of cards needs but a puff of hot air. Finally, consider this article and the implications for the US Dollar:
Saudi Arabia Considers Ditching The Dollar For Chinese Oil Sales"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tanypteryx writes: My guess is that the old money system will eventually fail and in order for a new system to be sound it will have to be backed by one of two things: Why are they buying all that wonderful gold if it can't save us/them?1) Gold and a solid commodities basket) or 2) Human commitment. (Mandatory)Think Mark Of The Beast. Or laugh, I really don't care. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make them drink. And you know the only thing that *can* save us. I'll call it Truth, Love, and Honesty. Nobody really wants that, however. Ringo will crow that I myself dont want it! Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Tangle writes: Russia now controls all of Ukraine's seaports...or very nearly so. He may well have bluffed the main goal of capturing the Capital, Kyiv. As I have said before, he wants the wheat and he wants the ports. There won't be years of Putin doing anything - he's over; he miscalculated, he's lost, either quickly or slowly, he and Russia are now out of the global picture - he can no longer win. Ukraine won't survive without their trade.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Though I have been accused with disconnected and irrational thinking, (largely due to diabetic blood sugar levels) I absorb a great deal of information. My critics prematurely accuse me of accepting the preaching of con men and hucksters.
Time will tell how accurate my phobias are regarding the US Dollar...but that's another topic. I am convinced now that the primary reason for Putins land grab into Ukraine is the following: 1) Ukraine found evidence of large oil and natural gas reserves within their territory. The former president, Petro Poroshenko, was pro Russian.2)Zelinski sided more with the West and Putin could not risk losing the warm water port and the additional Natural Gas reserves (and oil). "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
What warm water port would Russia lose? They needed to seize control of the Black Sea. If Mariupol was seized, Russia would also end up with full control of more than 80% of Ukraine's Black Sea coastline - cutting off its maritime trade and further isolating it from the world.
What gas and or oil would Russia lose? Again, learn to read. Russia is trying not to lose anything. It is Ukraine that had control of newly discovered (2012) Gas deposits under the sea near their coast. Putin did not want Ukraine (especially a NATO Ukraine) to remain in control of them.
BBC writes: Geographically, the city of Mariupol occupies only a tiny area on the map but it now stands obstinately in the way of Russian forces who have burst out of the Crimean peninsula. They are pushing north-east to try to link up with their comrades and Ukrainian-separatist allies in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. General Sir Richard Barrons - former commander of UK Joint Forces Command - says capturing Mariupol is vital to Russia's war effort. "When the Russians feel they have successfully concluded that battle, they will have completed a land bridge from Russia to Crimea and they will see this as a major strategic success."
If Mariupol was seized, Russia would also end up with full control of more than 80% of Ukraine's Black Sea coastline - cutting off its maritime trade and further isolating it from the world. By holding out against advancing forces for the past three weeks, the defending Ukrainians have managed to preoccupy a large number of Russian troops. But that failure by Russia to secure a rapid capture of the city has prompted Russian commanders to resort to a 21st Century version of medieval siege tactics. They have pummelled Mariupol with artillery, rockets, and missiles - damaging or destroying over 90% of the city. Do you ever read the news.jar?"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
analytical ringo writes: Think long-range, ringo. Think next 30 years. Oil and gas will become rare and expensive. Russia likely figures they need more. As a general rule, it's cheaper to trade than to fight a war. Isn't Putin likely to lose more oil/gas sales due to sanctions than he could possibly gain from Ukraine? Let us go to a Marxist source! Party for Socialism and Liberation These are the same woke jokers that were behind defunding the police!
Oil, imperialism and national conflict in the Caucasus That was an old article. Let me find a more timely statement from them.(They are very Marxist. LNA could have worked for them!
PSL Statement on Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine I figured you would like the propaganda from the comrades! Why must they pick on the US? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: Just don't get idealistic and imagine a one-world-government. It won't work if the *U.S.* doesn't have a primary say and veto power within it. I was thinking a couple of generations beyond that, say a hundred years. Granted we need to keep our own authoritarians in check. China will be the new global boss by 2030 and that in and of itself will be a cause of great concern if, in fact, we become a country of second class citizens."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
SkepticalRingo writes: We have veto power in the UN Security Council. The U.S. will never have veto power over anything."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
And yet you and most everyone else here does not understand how money works. You correctly said that the Bill will get paid. The bill will get paid when the rest of the world loses the faith in US Treasuries. The Dollar will be replaced as the currency of global trust. We are not sure yet what will replace it, but the investments of many people will absorb the loss.
When Nixon decoupled the dollar from Gold in 1970, he said he was "defending the dollar against the speculators. Hard asset commodities are like kryptonite to unbacked fiat currencies...which is now nearly worldwide. Do you honestly think that money is given value merely by a common agreement? If so, what is the asset backing the common agreement?? Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Why should the US be in charge? Who do you suggest be in charge?"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
biased ringo writes: Right now, your authoritarians - and that includes you - are the most dangerous (human) force on earth. Next to them, Putin is a saint. Interesting. And what makes these domestic (im assuming) authoritarians so dangerous? Is it because we won't let you print money for social programs? If so, we are simply trying to preserve the value of the dollar, but we have a backup system of investments should it crash. We resist globalism. (at least I do...I dunno about the rest of the so-called authoritarians.
We learned a long time ago that your predictions are worthless. The jury is still out. If you dont think China will be the dominant nation on earth by 2030, you have a lot of reading to do."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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