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ringo
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Message 856 of 875 (897105)
08-29-2022 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 854 by Tangle
08-28-2022 4:26 AM


Tangle writes:
we haven't got any of those wonderful trade deals yet
Wanna buy some mustard? We got yer mustard here. Get yer mustard here....

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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Percy
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Message 857 of 875 (897110)
08-29-2022 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 824 by Tangle
12-18-2019 3:52 AM


Re: The Final Results
From two and a half years ago:
Tangle writes:
Boris is a clown but he's no idiot - he's a very clever guy. He's no Trump, I have a feeling he'll surprise us.

Well we have to hope.
I accidentally clicked on a link that brought this post into view. What are the odds of randomly coming across something so relevant?
--Percy

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Tangle
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Message 858 of 875 (897132)
08-29-2022 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 857 by Percy
08-29-2022 2:11 PM


Re: The Final Results
If the clown hadn't turned out to also be a pathological liar maybe things would have worked out better...

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Percy
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Message 859 of 875 (897147)
08-29-2022 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 858 by Tangle
08-29-2022 3:59 PM


Re: The Final Results
Tangle writes:
If the clown hadn't turned out to also be a pathological liar maybe things would have worked out better...
Wasn't he also corrupt, a hypocrite, and a crook? I don't know the perspective from over there, but I think that's the way it looks from over here. And maybe it could be argued that it's kind of expected that one lie about one's corruption, hypocrisy and thievery.
Anyway, I was very surprised to find myself staring at that old post about Johnson that while hopeful still seemed to have him pegged.
Didn't he do some amazing work early on in getting Brexit though? That aside, one thing you can say about old Boris is that he sure knew how to have a good time!
--Percy

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dwise1
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Message 860 of 875 (897150)
08-29-2022 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 859 by Percy
08-29-2022 6:06 PM


Re: The Final Results
That aside, one thing you can say about old Boris is that he sure knew how to have a good time!
At least we know that Boris didn't spend $70,000 on hairstyling like Trump did (eg, Trump Took $70,000 in Tax Deductions for Hair Care. Experts Say That’s Illegal. - The New York Times. ). Unless the completely unkempt look cost more to pull off than I thought.

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AZPaul3
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Message 861 of 875 (897152)
08-29-2022 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 860 by dwise1
08-29-2022 7:43 PM


Re: The Final Results
The comb over is fragile and requires constant maintenance.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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PaulK
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Message 862 of 875 (897158)
08-30-2022 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 858 by Tangle
08-29-2022 3:59 PM


Re: The Final Results
quote:
If the clown hadn't turned out to also be a pathological liar maybe things would have worked out better...
I doubt it. Staying in the Single Market was out - because staying in makes Brexit a bit daft. So we get a load of trading problems and trouble in Northern Ireland, no matter which pro-Brexit type is in charge. Boris’s incompetence added a shit topping to the shit sandwich, but it was always going to be shit.

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Diomedes
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Message 863 of 875 (897473)
09-06-2022 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 862 by PaulK
08-30-2022 12:47 AM


Re: The Final Results
Now that Boris is out, for the EVC folks in the UK, what are your thoughts on the new PM that was just announced? Liv Truss:
Liz Truss: What sort of prime minister will she be? - BBC News
quote:
What sort of prime minister will she be?
A heavy burden of responsibility falls immediately upon the shoulders of any new prime minister, often causing a silent quiver of nerves. For Liz Truss, self doubt does not form part of her lexicon.
People who have met her in recent days say she is relishing the ride and is brimming with self-confidence.
Don't know anything about this person, so curious as to other people's thoughts on the matter.

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vimesey
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Message 864 of 875 (897477)
09-06-2022 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 863 by Diomedes
09-06-2022 10:29 AM


Re: The Final Results
Well, Boris has lowered the bar below the level of a cess pool for the leader of a country, so Truss will find it hard to get any lower than that.
However, I don't expect her to do anything remotely competent or act with any discernable degree of integrity. It's all about power and lining their pockets these days. Gone are the days of decent politicians.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Tangle
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Message 865 of 875 (897480)
09-06-2022 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 863 by Diomedes
09-06-2022 10:29 AM


Re: The Final Results
I've just watched her, it's going to be ok, she says she's going to fix everything.
She looks like a recently appointed head teacher of a small infant school. Oh dear.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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AZPaul3
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Message 866 of 875 (897597)
09-08-2022 2:13 PM


Long Live The King
Condolences to the English and all the peoples of the commonwealth on the loss of your sovereign. More than that, she was a pretty nice girl and will be missed the world over.
So now what? Charles to be king? With a conservative government in place in Britain is the monarchy secure for at least a while? Will Canada, Scotland, Ireland, Australia throw off the monarchy and take their sovereignty onto themselves? Is this long running publicity show and tourist draw about to close at Buckingham?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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xongsmith
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Message 867 of 875 (897608)
09-08-2022 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 866 by AZPaul3
09-08-2022 2:13 PM


Re: Long Live The King
AZPaul3 writes:
More than that, she was a pretty nice girl and will be missed the world over.
oh no, you made me think of:
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she changes from day to day
I wanna tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a belly full of wine
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm gonna make her mine, oh yeah
Someday I'm gonna make her mine

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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AZPaul3
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Message 868 of 875 (897609)
09-08-2022 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 867 by xongsmith
09-08-2022 4:16 PM


Re: Long Live The King
Great minds ...

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 869 of 875 (897612)
09-08-2022 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 868 by AZPaul3
09-08-2022 4:20 PM


Re: Long Live The King
I think that the idea of a King won't sit well with the 'woke" generation. Elizabeth came into the public spotlight as a child and was duly adopted by all of us. (well...most of us)
But Charles is a man, and having grown up in the monarchy, is best known as the ex of Diana. The public may protest at the continued extravagance.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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ringo
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Message 870 of 875 (897645)
09-09-2022 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 869 by Phat
09-08-2022 4:42 PM


Re: Long Live The King
Phat writes:
But Charles is a man.
I was thinking something similar myself. Elizabeth was the same age as my mother and my aunts; she was everybody's mother and/or grandmother. Charles is more like a bother. My brothers and I spent the first part of our lives trying to kill each other.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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