All summed up by something I heard a supermarket checkout operator say to a customer, just before the vote: well, I don’t really understand any of the arguments, but I’m voting leave to keep the foreigners out.
Yeah, like the Jutes and Angles and Saxons and Vikings and Danes and Norsemen and such. Keep them furriners out.
the full text of the deal isn't published yet. There are some rumors there are no tarifs that's good since the Brit's have a deficit with the EU. Yea im rooting for the EU. But what i really want to know is what they did with financial transactions packages services and the like. Its where the Brit's are strong, and need a bit of knocking down. And hurrah for the Irish for getting that open border with n Ireland. Wouldn't want any new bombings now would we.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
Interestingly, I heard that one of the biggest stickler points was the fishing details. The UK was more resistant to EU boats fishing in or near their territorial waters. Looks like they were eventually able to get some kind of compromise.
And I honestly had no doubts the border with Ireland would stay open. There is so much at stake there, that both sides probably wanted to ensure that remained stable.
Incidentally, I started this Brexit thread in June of 2016. Hard to believe it is still alive in December of 2020. Guess the talking heads that continued to say Brexit would be easy were a tad off the mark.
It’s the consequences of Brexit, of course, You have to put a border between Britain and the EU somewhere. And following the land border would be a bit of a nightmare, as well as endangering the Good Friday Agreement.
But putting the border in the Irish Sea upsets the Unionists who see it as a step towards a United Ireland. So their paramilitaries are causing trouble.
quote:The Scottish National Party is promising to hold a second independence referendum after election results announced Saturday saw pro-independence candidates gain a majority in the Scottish parliament.
The results from Thursday's vote have put the issue firmly back on the table and set the stage for a clash with London. In her victory speech, Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said her Scottish National Party (SNP) -- which wants to break away from the United Kingdom -- had delivered a "historic and extraordinary" win after finishing with 64 seats in the Scottish parliament, one short of a majority. Combined with the eight seats won by Scottish Greens, pro-independence parties now control 72 of the parliament's 129 seats. The Conservative party won 31 seats, Labour won 22, and the Liberal Democrats four seats.
In Sep 2016 I was on a South of Spain cruise out of Southhampton. Almost the entire passenger list was British; so a couple thousand Brits and less than a couple hundred Yanks. I liked the steak and kidney pie, regret passing up the bubble and squeak, really loved the British breakfasts (especially the British bacon; I didn't try the pudding though), didn't dare try the Vegemite. The last-night party was a celebration of British popular music (featuring Beatles and Stones, of course) for which the concourse (an "atrium" that ran the length of the ship -- yes, the inboard cabins had that as their view) was packed; they closed with Monty Python's "Lighter Side of Life" for which everyone held his/her lit cigarette lighter high.
The Brits kept needling us about Trump and we kept needling them about Brexit. Neither side had any explanation for their own national insanity.
So far there have been no benefits and many harms. Business is much harder, we haven't got any of those wonderful trade deals yet and we have a real chance of Scotland breaking up the Union and Northern Ireland going bad.
If we hadn't had the COVID crisis followed by Ukraine, the lack of Brexit benefits and NI disputes would be top of the news everyday.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.