taiji2's complaint

It's been proposed before. And now that there are so few active ID/creationists here, maybe it is even more essential that they get a soft introduction. I am going to adopt some kind of newbie rule for my own participation. Probably something based on the number of threads and posts for the newbie. The effect will likely be that I won't respond to newbies like tiaji2 at all. In looking over my own participation in the thread, I don't see anything essential.Obviously everyone cannot adopt such a rule.

I think I would like to see newbies given some kind of growth period. And it is really hard to use appears clueless" as a criteria rule because I think many of us would judge most ID proponents to be highly clueless about something pretty obvious. It is not like Behe or some with a well developed, if wrong position is going to start posting here.I'm also a bit sensitive to having poked at a Viet Nam era war veteran. If I had encountered him in public, I'm sure I would not have placed a high priority on disabusing him of his fantasies on the origins of life.ABE:If that kind of deflection is a coping mechanism, it's one that works on me.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

There are quite a few Christians here. I'm not sure that those Christians who are not fundamentalists have a first hand impression of what Creationists and ID proponents have to endure. I don't want to belittle your own experience, but I don't think it is the same as say Faith's or the Mike the Wiz's or ICANT's. You do occasionally get some support. But even when there were more active fundamentalists, they did not seem to support each others positions other than in the most general way.

I'd take it a bit further than that. Regardless of reality, the conversation is on a debate site on which the question of whether God created the universe is a point of contention.Regardless of the truth, or how you came to accept something as truth, if that truth is being debated, don't expect your feelings to protect you from intense probing. That's not what a debate is about. In fact, in a debate, you should post as if the object were to convince a skeptical moderator.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Past threads dealing at least in part with the creation of the universe from nothing: Does the universe have total net energy of zero? (open) Before Big Bang God or Singularity (closed) Buzsaw Biblical Universe Origin Hypothesis vs Singularity Universe Origin Theory (closed) The Kalam cosmological argument (open)I think these threads are all closed. [ Two of the threads are still open. --Admin ]Edited by Admin, : Make the thread names into links, annotate which are open.