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Coyote
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Message 103 of 693 (709892)
10-30-2013 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Straggler
10-30-2013 7:55 PM


Re: Theological Claims
If you believe differently can you explain how theological claims pertaining to "peoples and cultures" that cannot be tested scientifically are assessed using non-scientifc methods in order to determine whether these claims are likely to be true?
When people differ over theological claims or interpretations it is common to split and form different denominations or sects.
That is why there are perhaps 40,000 different flavors of Christianity today according to some websites.
This exhibits the use of belief in place of evidence in assessing theological claims.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Coyote
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Message 298 of 693 (710715)
11-09-2013 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 296 by Phat
11-09-2013 9:50 AM


Re: It's All In your Mind
What frightens many secular minds is not the idea of God...it is the idea that were they to accept it, they would lose control over themselves.
Absolute nonsense!
And probably projection as well. Just because believers think that without someone watching them all the time they would lose control over themselves doesn't mean that is the case for others.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

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Coyote
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Message 333 of 693 (710859)
11-11-2013 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by AZPaul3
11-11-2013 8:33 PM


Re: The hypothetico-deductive method
And not just any wine but a Chteauneuf-du-Pape, 1976.
You a city boy or something??!!
Here's how it's done:
If the ocean was whiskey
And I was a duck
I'd dive to the bottom
And never come up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFSAc3E1hWc
;-)

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

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