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The moral implications of evolution, and their discontents.

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Larni
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Message 20 of 124 (438632)
12-05-2007 3:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 13 by Cold Foreign Object
12-05-2007 1:57 PM

CFO writes:
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Evolution presupposes Materialism to be true and Creationism-Design to be false.
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Oh, for gods sake, no it does not. Things can be created and then evolve encompasing both 'presuppositions'.
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You position is flawed. Again.
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12-06-2007 4:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 28 by Cold Foreign Object
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I think it's fair to say that your position (yet again) declares you a moron.
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I'm happy to follow you with occluded insults, Ray; but if you could keep it civil it would be nice.
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Larni
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12-06-2007 12:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 41 by Cold Foreign Object
12-06-2007 11:55 AM

Re: What else is new?
The implied insult is easy to see:
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CFO writes:
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Your view says you are a victim of more smarter and pernicious evolutionists
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So I'm a patsy to 'more smarter'(sic) people because I disagree with you?
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So either everyone who disagrees with you is a simliar patsy or I'm being singled out for specific treatment.
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What's it going to be?
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I think you will find that 'evolution' makes no claims about where life came from, just how it changes.
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Take a nice long look at the OP and the 8 initial points; I think you will be pleasently suprised.
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It's been pointed out upthread be people 'more smarter' than I that only funfies hold your view of mutual exclusivity.
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12-06-2007 2:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by Cold Foreign Object
12-06-2007 1:51 PM

Re: What else is new?
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Then why did you say evolution can accomodate both 'presuppositions'?
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Lol, because it make no claims about such issues and contradicts neither.
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Think harder, Ray.
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Edited by Larni, : Documentory commentary.
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12-06-2007 2:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 43 by Chiroptera
12-06-2007 1:11 PM

Re: What else is new?
Yeerrz...maaarthda....
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Larni
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12-07-2007 7:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 47 by Cold Foreign Object
12-06-2007 9:51 PM

Re: What else is new?
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Then why did you say evolution can accomodate both 'presuppositions'?
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Brilliant! Ask the same question again. Genius.
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As an answer (again):
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'Evolution' does not state there was no act of creation.
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