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Author Topic:   The moral implications of evolution, and their discontents.
nator
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Message 8 of 124 (438562)
12-05-2007 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Beretta
12-05-2007 9:38 AM


Re: Are there consequences?
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Either God exists or he does not -that completely changes the picture and the results in people's lives.
Really? I am a more moral person now that I am not a believer than when I was one.
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If we live, die and get buried and rot and there is no God, then there are no consequences to ignoring our consciences.
Sure there are. The consequences are felt here and now, though, during this lifetime.
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We are free to make our own laws of life that we live by and relative morality results from that.
Every single person, including you, practices moral relativity.
There is no such thing as absolute morality.
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Losing God causes lower moral standards because we become our own boss and the only consequence that matters is if we get caught doing what men say we shouldn't
Maybe that's wht you would do if you didn't believe in the thread of eternal damnation, but that is hardly true of most normal people.
Can you explain how understanding that changes in allele frequencies in populations over time causes someone to behave in a socialy unacceptable manner?
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If God exists and knows and watches every move we make, that's powerful incentive to keep up some standards in every situation apart from human law. For those that do not believe he exists, we may have some standards taught to us - but saying to your child "do it because I said so" is not nearly so powerful as God said so.
Funny, I do the right thing simply becasue I wouldn't want to be treated that way myself, and because the kind of world I want to live in is one in which we are kind and courteous toward one another.
You, it seems, only do the right thing because you are afraid of punishment from God, not becasue you see any inherent value in treating other people with respect.
I guess that means that you are a sociopath, and the only thing holding back your demented and sick urge to rape and murder everyone you meet is your belief in God.
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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