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Author | Topic: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You may be right.
Do you have any evidence to support that assertion?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I include my own reading of the Bible among the millions who share the orthodox Protestant point of view, but you stand alone as the ONLY one I know with your point of view on everything in the Bible you've ever mentioned.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Too funny Faith but what is actually written.
Chapter and verse Faith, chapter and verse. Remember everyone here can look and see what is actually written not what you "read".Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Me and the millions against jar and... jar.
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Golffly Member (Idle past 3111 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
faith writes: Nor all those billions, since absolutely nobody but jar knows how to "actually read what is written." You've made that clear over and over again. Instead of jabbering meaninglessly, why don't you post something jar can't read correctly but you can? I'm new and I have only seen Jar read exceedingly well.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Me and the millions against jar and... jar. No Faith, you and the millions against what is actually written which is why you NEVER support your assertions by providing chapter and verse. You know that if you actually did that what is written would refute you yet again.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is absolutely not true, I've produced chapter and verse a bazillion times on this forum. The problem is that you don't know how to read in context so you mangle the reading by your insistence on a blockheaded literalism. The Bible is to be read in the light of all the rest of the Bible, not read myopically as you read it. I could refer you to dozens of commentators who read in context and understand those passages as I understand them and you'd have the gall to call all those commentators wrong because they don't read it as you do. Yet you couldn't find even ONE respected traditional commentary that agrees with you. Go ahead, prove me wrong about that. Prove this isn't just jar against the entire history of Christian exegesis.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Too pitiful Faith.
Yet again you simply refuse to actually support your assertions. I post what is written Faith and if you think that is incorrect just specify the chapter and verse and everyone can look it up.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Golffly Member (Idle past 3111 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
faith writes:
That is absolutely not true, I've produced chapter and verse a bazillion times on this forum. The problem is that you don't know how to read in context so you mangle the reading by your insistence on a blockheaded literalism. The Bible is to be read in the light of all the rest of the Bible, not read myopically as you read it. I could refer you to dozens of commentators who read in context and understand those passages as I understand them and you'd have the gall to call all those commentators wrong because they don't read it as you do. Yet you couldn't find even ONE respected traditional commentary that agrees with you. Go ahead, prove me wrong about that. Prove this isn't just jar against the entire history of Christian exegesis. Maybe because you've done this so many times in the past, you could direct me to one occasion. I don't need to see a bazillion and have no reason to doubt you have been right that many times, but one would be helpful. I am curious because I have seen jar say a lot of valid things, but I haven't seen it once from yourself actually.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Tell you what, why don't you publish your own unique commentary since obviously you are the only one who has it right.
You can go to Blue Letter Bible or any other Bible site and read the commentaries on Genesis 1,2, 6 and 7 and see that you are alone in your crackpot reading.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Here's your chapter and verse, you shyster:
Genesis 7:2
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
too funny Faith
Gen 7 writes: Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Learn to actually read. Where in Gen 7:2 are fowl mentioned? Does it not say "beasts"? Now let's look at Gen 7:3.
Gen 7 writes: Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. It says seven fowls, fowls of the air not seven clean fowls. Now what does Gen 6 say?
Gen 6 writes: 20 Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive. Fowls, not clean fowls, not unclean fowls, fowls. Remember these very verses were posted by me back in Message 1352. I am just posting what is actually written, not what apologectics wish was written. Edited by jar, : fix formattingAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course, I knew you'd twist it which is why I didn't post it before, so here you are twisting it as expected. You don't know how to read in context, you take Genesis 7:3 out of its obvious context in which it is to be interpreted in the same vein as 7:2, clean fowls by sevens just as the clean beasts are by sevens, both being the specificity that was left out of Genesis 6.
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Golffly Member (Idle past 3111 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. Faith, besides what jar says.Are you aware that clean, unclean animals are not defined until Leviticus 11. How does one know which are clean and unclean since Leviticus occurs later? And, I'm sure you know the unclean/clean deal in Leviticus, are contradicted in a few areas of the bible. Including Genesis. So that part is kind of bungled up too.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The law of sacrifice is also not spelled out until Leviticus but is practiced by Abel, Noah, Job and Abraham long before. God wrote out His law for the Israelites but it was known already way before it was written; He wrote it to "set it in stone" as it were. It was of course also already known that only clean animals were to be sacrificed. The Law is said in scripture to be "written on the hearts" of those who didn't receive the written word.
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