Can the standard "Young Earth Creationist" model be falsified by genetics alone?

I looked at the studies and they talk way over my head. I have not gone through genetics yet so I really have no clue what they are saying. All I really understand is that between these two studies, there are way too much genetic mutation diversity on the Y Chromosome to suggest that there was a bottle neck at the time of Noah, that the Bible suggests. When you say stuff like this it takes a lot of faith in you and the people that did these studies to actually believe what you are telling me.My real question is why should I trust these studies to be accurate, correctly set up, truthful and unbiased?Edited by jbozz21, : grammatical errors

"You would probably need to be able to do some self verification."
(I am not sure how to do the quote thing)Like I said, I do not understand all of the science portrayed in the studies, and many people do not either. I don't have the money nor the time to go out and take a bunch of DNA and study it for myself. Most people will not either. Unless there were multiple studies reproducing the same study done by some trusted and unbiased sources then I would not be inclined to accept this data. I would venture to say that many other creationists, especially the uneducated in science or even genetics ones, would not be inclined to believe it either. Many studies have been done in the past that have been non- reproducible. two connecting studies is not enough to really prove or disprove anything on this point let alone the entire bible.To say that these studies prove the bible false is a very Hasty Generalization.

I can do that but I cannot do that for every claim, I don't have that kind of time, and nobody does. plus not everyone can do that for themselves especially those that do not have nor need any higher than a high school education. So you cannot realistically expect everyone to believe you. That would take a lot of trust which frankly people like you have not earned with your attacking the bible and all. So do not expect those that have had their lives changed for the better by following the teachings of the bible to actually want to trade in their firm moral upbringing for a sterilized amoral environment where anything goes all because some "scientist" did some "study" somewhere, unless they are that gullible and disconnected from what really matters.Experience matters a lot more to me and most people, than what someone said on the internet about some study that was supposedly done somewhere. I think I would much rather question the "experts" than trade in what I know through experience for something that means something to no one and nothing to everyone, and does nothing more than destroy the moral fiber of our whole society. (but that is a topic for a new thread)

Thank you Coragyps, good question, but I cannot comment on the "obvious" part about it supposedly being swiped from an older Sumerian myth. I do not think that can be proven, I don't even know how you can support that in your mind considering the Sumerian tablets are "dated to around 1600 BC during the first Babylonian dynasty," much later than 4350 BC, in which time the flood actually took place.Sumerian creation myth - WikipediaI believe the Sumerian flood "myth" and all the other flood "myths" really only support the Bible. But I digress.When it comes to support for the Bible most people don't even believe in the Bible for physical, tangible or scientific reasons. We believe in the Bible by moral and spiritual experiences with the teachings of the Bible which can all be proven to be true by simple practice. Just like you can go outside and touch sand if you want to know that it is real not believe in someone else telling you it is real, you actually experience it using your senses. (ie. if you want to know if prayer works, you can actually pray and when you receive an answer then you have evidence that it actually works,and you don't stop there you keep trying the experiment watching it work over and over again. Plus you hear the experiences of many people all over the world who's results had been reproducible in your own life....etc...etc...) That is an experiment that is much more reliable to me in my opinion than someone taking DNA and putting through some chemicals and saying "yup, the apes are your cousins..." by some scientist whom I have no idea what motives lie behind their desires to disprove the claims of the Bible, nor whether they are acting out of bias or whether their claims are actually legitimate. Who's experiment's are not reproducible to me. It would be very very Hasty of me to discount the Bible because of someone elses claims especially not knowing their motives or verifying what they say. Which makes me wonder why so many of you are so Hasty to discount the Bible. If you have tested the bible on it's own claims about how to live your life then you would know that the principles work and bring greater happiness. No man-made system can nor does do that perfectly like the Bible can. That, Coragyps is why you should trust the old Hebrew "myth".

I never said I was a source of genetics information.